Technology

Would creators actually move there? Say what you will about YouTube but at least they usually compensate the creators.

its really interesting how much we want an alt to common social medias now imo. for example, streamers are migrating from Twitch to Kick, and as you mentioned, Youtube to PeerTube/rumble

If you think an ad-pocalypse is bad, then why would they jump to a platform with no ads at all? They'd likely be paying to be on that platform. Also the fact streaming video from a self hosting platform is much more demanding then text fedi instances like Lemmy or Mastodon. Also no way the fedi could keep up with even a fraction of YouTube's creator tools, or their audience which is their bottom line.

YouTube will probably never be replaced. We can at least go for private front ends like Invidious.

I think this is super interesting, and a really good idea. But as others have stated in this thread, very costly.

However until technology catches up, maybe we could have an interstitial federated platform. One that's super decentralized. Like 90% of the users running their own instance, decentralized. Anyone with a NAS can host they're own vids. Then the other 10% that are willing to host high bandwidth, high capacity servers, can work as caching for the most popular videos.

Replacing YouTube is a bad idea

I see the switch from YouTube will be the final move, because it is has the most hurdles to overcome. Smart people will eventually figure out an efficient way to get things rolling. Fingers crossed it's soon!

That's unlikely. Both Reddit and Twitter speak or at least spoke to people who enjoy a certain image of being anti establishment (in one way or another and whether that's warranted or not). Youtube just doesn't. You can't get more mainstream than Youtube.

I wouldn't for the reasons mentioned by others.

There's no monetization; I would have to find, attract, and deal with sponsors on my own.

There's not really much in the way of audience which makes the above harder since I would need numbers/

There's also the whole thing about bandwidth.

Then there's all the sysadmin stuff to do, security updates, etc.

Then there's still the legal and other admin roles, presumably, about DMCA, etc.

I do not have the time for any of that right now.

Nebula has been quite successful as far as I can tell. A whole bunch of educational YouTubers have moved over or were part of establishing it and honestly it works well. Videos can download to your device, the quality is the same, the app is a tiny bit janky but nowhere near as bad as all the ads etc on the YouTube app, and the cost is actually reasonable and goes in a reasonable share to the creators. I strongly prefer direct access to creators like this and also like on Patreon. Direct support means there is no advertiser in between to demonetise a video or have it taken down because it is controversial. You can't even have a WW2 documentary on YouTube but you can have actual Nazis, but on Nebula you get analysis and history without Nike or Surfshark being reticent to sponsor a video.

First I’ve heard of alternatives to YouTube. Do they pay content creators the same or is it just people posting for free there?

Doubt it, it's expensive to host and creators won't have ways to ways to monetize it as easily as YouTube.

Also, I wouldn't really call the Twitter and Reddit cases "exodus". As much as I would like to see the fediverse succeed, the number of users on mastodon and Lemmy are just a blip on the radar.

I still see the same links on my Lemmy frontage days after they have been submitted, it's far less active than Reddit.

Problem is youtube is a platform that pays its content creators. It won't ever happen. If discord ever decides they want to be profitable then that'll be next.

Reddit has 500 million MAU, and this is a conservative estimate. Youtube on the other hand, is sitting comfortably at 4x this number, 2 billion MAU.

Considering that, and the nature of the platform, I'm pretty certain they are too big to fail.

Biggest issues with Peertube so far: Lack of content Lack of an iOS client

If Youtube blocks Adblockers, maybe.. but I think ppl will go to Odysse&Co first

Gotta be a way for folks to get paid. Most of the folks I watch on YouTube do it for a living.