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Just some off the top of my head: Destiny, Deep Rock Galactic, Overwatch, and most recently Baldur's Gate.

I received BG3 as a gift. I installed and loaded up the game and the first thing I was prompted to do is to create a character. There are like 12 different classes with 14 different abilities and 10 ability classes. The game does not explain any of this. I went to watch a tutorial online to try and wrap my head around all of this. The first tutorial just assumed you knew a bunch of stuff already. The second one I found was great but it was 1.5 hours long. There is no in-game tutorial I could find.

I just get very bored very quickly of analyzing character traits and I absolutely loathe inventory management (looking at you Borderlands). Often times my inventory fills up and then I end up just selling stuff that I have no idea what it does and later realizing it's an incredibly valuable item/resource and now I have to find more.

So my question is this: Do you guys really spend hours of your day just researching on the internet how to play these games? Or do you just jump in and wing it? Or does each game just build on top of working knowledge of previous similar games?

E: General consensus seems to be all of the above. Good to know!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Never played destiny and never will, but deep rock galactic, overwatch, and baldur’s gate all have mechanics rooted in other games. After playing a few other ability-heavy shooters with slower onboarding, OW and DRG make sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think Larian Games do very little to explain their rules to the player. I, too, found it incredibly frustrating when I played Divinity: Original Sin and later, DOS 2. So while I didn't carve out time from my day to learn the ins and outs of Baldur's Gate III, I did have experience with the other two games that helped me navigate it.

I adore these games but it took many hours of training for me to understand what it was I was even supposed to be doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

DOS: 2 was fuckin hard. I'm glad Larian made BG3 more forgiving. While I enjoyed DOS it was too much effort for most of my friends to get into.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I, too, miss the easy pick up and play games of the past.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are those games of the past? Games of all stripes still exist, just like complex games were in the past too (looking at Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2 from 20 years ago which are degrees more complex than BG3 today).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

from 20 years ago

That's not so long ago for me, or in gaming history my friend lol.

I'm talking more of the NES, SNES era. (All consoles anc PC included during that same time.) They were much simpler. The most complex ones were maybe simulator type games.

Many big title games today require a full on tutorial that can go from 15 mins to 30 mins to explain all the game mechanics and gameplay, inventory systems, power-ups, etc. Then you have all the DLC, loot boxes and all the other bull shit.

Back in the 80's-90's you just put in the cartridge, pressed power and played. (Or typed the DOS command, ENTER, and played.) You had the full game on the get go and you could learn the game mechanics in a couple of minutes or a few rounds of playing.

There are games today that still do this and keep it simple, and those tend to the the ones that I'll play and re-play and play again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's not so long ago for me, or in gaming history my friend lol.

I’d argue 20 years ago is a while ago in gaming, no matter how old either of us is. The appeal to authority due to age aside, I only mentioned 20 years ago to draw the comparison between the game being discussed in this thread and its predecessors.

there are games today that still do this

Exactly. Hell, I’m willing to bet there’s more “plug’n’play” games being made today just because of how wide the gaming industry is now versus the NES/Atari age, and that’s even ignoring the entire catalogue of these games over decades still existing for the playing.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do you guys really spend hours of your day just researching on the internet how to play these games? Or do you just jump in and wing it?

I jump in, wing it and if I don't know how stuff works I quickly search it in the game's wiki or guide. Time spent figuring out how stuff works by trial and error is time I could play the game instead.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For destiny, I have no idea. I first played D2 when it launched and that was fine, but I attempted to pick it up again a year or two later and I was immediately lost.

For overwatch I agai haven't played in quite some time. But for multiplayer shooters like that I try to go into a casual mode or training mode first and just get a feel for everything. Eventually you get the hang of things.

For RPG's it depends. Some games can benefit from reading up online. For example I'm playing bloodborne right now and I had no idea how I wanted to spec out my character. So I looked up what weapons and abilities are in the game and made my decision based around that. If a game features a respec option, I'll be more likely to just go in and wing it and change things up when I need to.

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