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I myself am really on the fence about this.

I hate what Reddit has done, as I was removed as a moderator on my sub. But I much prefer the UI to Lemmy so far. I’m also having a hard time understanding how this all works. I was familiar with Reddit, and it is obviously a way more active community.

But I also used Apollo and hate how they’ve done him so dirty.

Will you guys return if Reddit rights it’s wrongs?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No way, federated universe has opened my eyes. Rather stay here and help grow the community instead

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'll go back to reddit if the content is better.

Occasionally dropping shade and telling people to move to a better platform.
No shame, karma is useless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

If I can’t use Apollo I’m done for anything other than when a Reddit post is a web-search result.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Sure. In the same vein, I'll go back to twitter if elon musk somehow restored it to the way it was before before his purchase.

Neither scenario will happen, of course. But if we're talking about hypotheticals, I wouldn't have an issue returning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No. This whole Fediverse feels like Reddit did in the beginning. Real conversations. Real sense of community. No pointless bloat or mindless repetition. I started actually participating because I'm not drowned out with a million ridiculous generic comments minutes after a post. Reddit will undoubtedly continue, but not with me as a part of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

You could really only go 2 or 3 comments deep in any Reddit thread before you start seeing the copy pasted comments everywhere. Repeating catchphrases did seem like a good way to earn karma, though so maybe that's why bots and users alike just regurgitated the same drivel.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No. Reddit has shown it's not what I signed up for. I learn my lession, goodbye reddit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It's hard to say for me. What about next time they do something like this? It Seems like only a matter of time before they do. Maybe it would just be better to build and support this platform then deal with their nonsense anymore

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Not fully - those days are over, even if he gets fired (which sets me to wondering if he has some protection from that in his contract? but likely they could find a way regardless, like install a new position of "CEO overseer" that is above him, depending on the language).

And in its place seems to be a new era of freedom, where the content is divorced somewhat from the interface via federation, or at least Reddit is no longer the singular source of where all the good stuff is (I don't like watching videos - e.g. you can't "search" for stuff like you can text).

I help mod a tiny enthusiast sub over there so as people in it struggle to come to terms with what's going on, I haven't fully left there even now (yet...). Even so, even if Reddit backtracks, I like the idea of not putting everything into the one place anymore, b/c it makes the conditions for what happened too easily repeatable. If he felt that he had even the slightest competition, he would not have felt nearly so free to do what he did - so it falls to us (ALL of us) to not allow that to occur again.

Inside the walled gardens they take "good" care of you... but never forget that then you belong to them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Nope! I've now realised all centralised platforms are doomed to enshittification. I'm here for the long haul.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

At this point, no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope, the wells been poisoned. Even if they did a full 180 and Fired Spez for good measure, they've shown their hand. How long before they do it again? Even if all of this was %100 Spezs idea and everyone else in the company opposed it, could we really trust the replacement to never try this or anything similar again? How long before the next CEO decides to try again? What Reddit as a company has proven is that they can't be trusted, and what we as a community have proved with switching over to Kbin and Lemmy is that we don't need Reddit. We can make the same content and have the same or in some cases better communities and the beauty of doing it on a platform like this? A greedy corporation can't destroy it again. Even if a major instance owner goes rogue, we pick up move to another instance and keep going no need to learn a new site no need to rebuild communities. A simple "I'm moving over to this instance!" And that's it

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

UI's can change. CEO appointed companies can not. And communities can grow :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Damn redditors... They ruined reddit!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I deleted my 17 year old account. There's no going back, even if Reddit did backtrack it would be temporary. The enshitification has started and can't be stopped.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No.

There are two medical subs I care about and that have been reluctant to keep protesting or moving people over to Lemmy. For those I will probably compile Infinity with my own API key. But I will unsub from everything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No ofc not xd

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Of course not. The people here are nicer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

maybe if spez is also removed, and the board reselected

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No. Reddit's enshitification started a long time ago. This is just the catalyst. Corpo-stooges can get bent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No way. Even if they back down this time, they'll just try again later when we get complacent. Being on guard all the time is exhausting and not worth it when we can simply leave Reddit for good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No, this whole thing has made me understand that the incentives of the corporations and the interests of users are fundamentally conflicting. I feel like I knew that subconsciously before, I left facebook years ago but could never quite articulate why I hated them, but now my eyes have been opened and I just can't see going back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, current reddit management has shown their true colors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Time and again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If Apollo came back and Christian was happy, yes I think so. I gave up a lot by not using Reddit since 6/12 but my boycott will continue indefinitely if I can’t use Apollo anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Only if /u/spez gets fired without any sort of compensation. As long as he has any sort of power over Reddit he'll just wait and try to pull this again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I would probably try and advertise the fediverse over there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No, Spez showed his true colors, I would never go back to reddit ruled by that elon wannabe, the fediverse seems like a good option, and hopefully will grow more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Backtracking on API would only be one part of the puzzle. I won't go back while Huffman is CEO. And if RIF still closes down then I still say fuck 'em.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I wasn't on Reddit in the first place, so my opinion's not really relevant here, but I really enjoy the communities that have formed on Lemmy, so I do hope people stay around. I really strongly believe in the federation of networks over the centralization around capital.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. With the way they handled it, I doubt they wouldn't do something like that again. I like the idea of the fediverse because I don't quite understand it yet, but I'm trying, and it feels like a new experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'd been feeling like the place was getting old for a while. They might reverse this specific ruling this one time, but they'll keep making bad decisions, and I don't want to sit there through it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I might have, before Spez opened his big mouth. But when he got caught trying to spin his conversations with the Apollo and RiF devs (e.g., as blackmail, not willing to work with Reddit, respectively), that extinguished any possibility of going backβ€”I can't stand hypocrisy. I hate it more than having to pay a subscription for something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I will probably still use it occasionally, but honestly I'm super excited about federation. I have been interested in it for a while, and have casually switched to mastodon, but I didn't think it was ready yet and that enough people were adopting it to completely replace my reliance on other social media. But now that people are essentially forced to take it seriously, I think it is finally starting to feel populated enough to have a good time.

Mastodon kind of already started to feel great like that, but honestly I never really used twitter that much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No. The enshittification will progress regardless. Iβ€˜ve seen this often enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Not planning on returning. Reddit was getting crappy for a long time, particularly with how it responded to advertiser-unfriendly content. Federated social media is a better system, and by a metric of centralization, Reddit always sucked. It is a sad example of how corporations are successfully commercializating every aspect of human existence. I dropped in a couple times after June 11th in RiF, but at this point I feel no desire to open up the app.

Additionally, I've been posting a whole hell of a lot more here than I was on Reddit just a couple weeks prior. It's nice to feel wanted for once.

Lemmy and Kbin are early in their life cycles. I can put up with bugs and growing pains. Because the Fediverse is organized as a decentralized community, if one large group decides to enshittify their instance, we can just move to another instance or defederate from them if they pose a threat to the community. It's going to be very hard to unilaterally kill the whole community like what happened on Reddit and Digg. If it becomes possible in one of the Fediverse applications, we can read the source code, sound the alarm, and fork it or patch it out.

I had to learn how to use Reddit; I will learn how to use the Fediverse too. We'll get through this.

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