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Bulletins and News Discussion from November 6th to November 12th, 2023 - Apartheid Antony's Asinine Adventure (hexbear.net)

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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.

Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.

The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.

Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff

The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.

Resources For Understanding The War

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.

Last week's discussion post.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Talked with my dad today over the Ctesiphone and I very briefly brought up what I called "The Situation" (Israel-Palestine), and he was just as miserable and exhausted as I was, just a terrible thing is what it is.

Now, don't get me wrong, it's hilarious whenever an IOF unit gets 🔻'd but I think many would agree that it would be much better if the current conditions that caused this conflict wasn't extant in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

"Our wish is to be martyred": defiant Hamas fighters count their losses in West Bank | The Guardian

Hundreds of men, some armed, march with bodies of the dead through Jenin as violence escalates

At 8.30 on Friday morning, Jenin's morgue was crowded. Outside, dozens of young men in black baseball caps, T-shirts and jeans stood quietly, some with their weapons between their knees, their green Hamas headbands tied tight across their foreheads. Older men sat in front of shuttered shops.

Inside, a metal door was opened and a corpse wrapped in the green flag of Hamas was drawn out on a stretcher. A teenager with an assault rifle in one hand touched the dead man lightly on the forehead, then helped to shoulder the stretcher and with five others set out through the throng, down the rubble-strewn streets to the home of Hamed Fayed, where the women of the family waited.

Moments later, a second body, wrapped in the black flag of Islamic Jihad, was carried out. Then a third body, a fourth, and more.

As the Israeli offensive in Gaza continues, a month after the Hamas attacks that killed 1,400 Israelis, mainly civilians, and wounded many more, levels of violence in the occupied West Bank are rising fast. Nineteen Palestinians were killed across the territory on Thursday as clashes took place with the Israel Defence Forces (IDF), 14 in the small northern town of Jenin. Casualties were aged from 15 to 40, and included several civilians. Since 7 October, 167 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli forces; and a further eight, including one child, have been killed by Israeli settlers. Three Israelis have been killed in attacks by Palestinians according to the UN.

Jenin has long been a flashpoint between Hamas and Israeli security forces, outside the practical control of the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah and a stronghold of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. A major and bloody operation was launched in the town's main refugee camp in July and there have been clashes throughout the summer. These have intensified dramatically in the last month.

On Thursday, according to Israeli media quoting IDF statements, the IDF launched a counter-terrorism operation during which forces exchanged fire with armed terrorists.

"I have never seen anything like these days," said Ayman Zaid, a nursing supervisor at Jenin's main hospital, where the dead and wounded were brought in late on Thursday evening as the fighting finally ebbed. "They brought them in around 8pm. No one could get to the hospital before. We had casualties bleeding out in the street."

Hamed Fayed, 19, was shot during fighting between Hamas and the IDF in the maze of narrow streets about 500 metres from the hospital on Thursday morning. Neighbours said the IDF had first moved into the town during the night, then returned in the morning.

"They came in for three hours, with full power. We went out to fight them. They had drones and they are really dangerous," said a friend of the dead man, who did not want to give his name. "Most of the martyrs were killed by drones but there was very close combat. Hamed went to shoot an [Israeli] sniper but the sniper shot him.

"We were together all the time. He was my brother. I have been his friend since third grade. He was a very nice person, a very aggressive fighter. He was never afraid. This will strengthen us but we are carrying our weapons to be martyred. Of course he is a lucky one. He is a martyr. I am happy for him. This is my wish too. Our wish is to be martyred. But I miss him, of course. We used to play soccer and go swimming every day."

The strap of the man's assault rifle contained a tiny Qur'an. On a magazine of ammunition was a picture of another "martyr".

Israeli intelligence officials have claimed to the Guardian that the successive operations of the IDF in the West Bank, and the detention of between 1,000 and 2,200 people since 7 October, are necessary to stop further terrorist attacks. According to the IDF, substantial number of those arrested are members of Hamas, which is listed as a terrorist organisation by the US, UK and several other nations. One official claimed that those now held in the West Bank were plotting strikes into Israel. .

As the corpse of Fayed was brought close to his small home, sobbing and cries could be heard, amplified by the narrow alley. The corpse was briefly taken into the home among tearful relatives. Armed men outside fired in the air and then shouldered Fayed's remains again for the journey to the cemetery.

Benjamin Netanyahu has pledged to crush Hamas and to eliminate its leaders and as many of its lower ranks as necessary to make impossible any repetition of the terrorist attacks of last month.

Hamas militants and relatives of some of those killed on Thursday said Gaza, where more than 11,000 have been killed since the Israeli offensive began, and the West Bank were "brothers". "If [the Israelis] are attacking them in Gaza and killing them there, what do they expect us to do, stand with our hands in our pockets?" said Lutfi Sayed, whose cousin was killed on Thursday.

Hamas has been responsible for dozens of deadly suicide attacks against Israeli civilians over recent decades, and Israeli security agencies fear a fresh surge of violence from the West Bank in this current conflict. But the aim of eliminating the organisation, founded in Gaza in 1987, is not an easy one. Though established only in pockets of the West Bank, Hamas and the smaller Islamic Jihad group can deploy significant numbers of militants for terrorist attacks or more conventional fighting.

Hundreds, possibly thousands of men, many young and armed, marched with the bodies of the dead through the centre of Jenin on Friday morning. Posters of dead "martyrs" cover every wall, and slogans celebrating their deaths are ubiquitous. On almost every street corner were groups of armed young men, standing with their weapons, sometimes wearing balaclavas or face masks, but often making no effort to conceal their features. Most wore either the green headband of Hamas or the black of Islamic Jihad.

After the march, mosques filled for Friday prayers. Outside al-Ansar mosque, elderly men and seven-year-olds lined up to pray below walls marked by recent clashes, pocked and cracked by bullets and shrapnel. Assault rifles were leant against walls as their owners kneeled and bowed their heads.

"We have seen the killing of our uncles, fathers, brothers and sons," said one heavily armed militant, 30, who said he had joined Hamas when he was 17. "I would have liked to travel, live my life, have my freedom. I wanted to be a teacher. But we are fighting instead and God willing we will win." He praised the Hamas attacks on Israel last month and called for more.

During prayers, speakers relayed the sermon. In pauses in the speech, static cracked, while a drone buzzed overhead. The imam saved his fiercest criticism not for Israel but for the Arab powers that he said had betrayed Gaza.

"You cannot count on the Arab leaders for liberating Gaza. They are accomplices of the Israelis and they are the real enemy," he said. "We will have to liberate Gaza ourselves, and now we know Israel is weak, as weak as a spider's web."

The article has a 1m video and a couple photos.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (8 children)

“A clear statement that politics should end right here and right now,” Beshear says.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? This guy was just reelected as governor of Kentucky. What even is politics?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

Explosions, gunfire as Israeli forces conduct raids across occupied West Bank

Another late night and early morning of raids at multiple locations across the occupied West Bank. Some of the more notable ones were in Jenin, which has become a flashpoint when it comes to these raids.

Clashes have been ongoing and the situation has escalated in the last 30 minutes or so.

We are told that explosive devices have been used against Israeli army members and their equipment, and we’ve seen videos emerge from there where you can hear a lot of loud explosions and lots of shooting.

more IOF getting owned by IEDs

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Random tidbits from twitter I haven't seen mentioned here yet. Unsourced unless otherwise mentioned:

US announces 3 soldiers were wounded in rocket attack against their base in Omar oil field yesterday

An israeli special force was discovered in Jenin. Resistance factions opened heavy fire on it. Zionists sending massive reinforcements. Reminder that all Resistance factions in Jenin, and number of groups from other parts of the West Bank, are fighting together in Jenin.

The resistance in Jenin sounds like serious business. A giant IED blew up a troop carrier: https://nitter.net/EyesOnSouth1/status/1722591983217131659#m

On the Lebanon border, Hezbollah has fired a ticket directly on soldiers. Only appeared to hit one, but this is a change from their usual propo, which has shown buildings being targeted. CW: death: https://nitter.net/resist4ever__/status/1722676902278640020#m

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Did that nurse who had returned from Gaza and CNN interviewed her condemn Israel? The 8min interview that I saw on YT was her looking traumatized but also careful not to raise anything about Israel, IMO.

To be frank, her working with Doctors Without Borders, which is kind of organization that bad actors like CIA would exploit, is red flag for me. And then CNN bringing her for interview is just so sus to me. Tell me I'm wrong, I'm dying.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A recap of the latest developments this morning

It’s 7am on Wednesday (05:00 GMT) in the occupied Palestinian territories and in Israel.

Here’s a recap of the developments this morning.

Intense bombardments reported in the vicinity of al-Shifa Hospital and Indonesian Hospital both in northern Gaza.

Scores of Palestinians killed, including children, in the last 24 hours following a new wave of Israeli air strikes that hit different targets in Khan Younis in the south as well as Nuseirat in central Gaza and Jabalia in the north.

Israeli forces launched a raid early on Wednesday in the occupied West Bank’s Aqaba, Qalqilya and Balata areas.

Germany’s Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock has confirmed that more than 200 German nationals and their family members have left the Gaza Strip.

A vigil was held outside the Israeli parliament in Jerusalem on Tuesday night marking one month since more than 1,400 Israelis were killed by Hamas and at least 240 others were taken as hostages.

Gaza dominates G7 foreign ministers meeting in Tokyo, Japanese Foreign Minister Yoko Kamikawa warns the situation is becoming more severe.

UN says all bakeries in the north of Gaza have now closed due to “lack of fuel, water and wheat flour” as well as damage to many of the bakeries.

UK Labour MP resigns from party frontbench over leader’s Gaza stance.

Human Rights Watch says an Israeli army strike on an ambulance outside Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza on November 3 “should be investigated as a possible war crime”.

- Al Jazeera

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

Telling people to just follow the BDS boycott list if they want to help with Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (6 children)

It seems that nearly every day (if not multiple times day) - the US has a different "vision" of the future of Gaza. I wonder what Biden or his administration or "anonymous sources" will be saying tomorrow if not this afternoon.

Blinken says Gaza and West Bank must be ‘unified’ under Palestinian Authority.

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken said Wednesday that Gaza should be unified with the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority once the war ends, the strongest signal yet from the Biden Administration about what it would like to see at the end of Israel’s fight against Hamas in the enclave.

Mr. Blinken went beyond remarks by the White House, which on Tuesday cautioned Israel against reoccupying Gaza after the end of its war with Hamas. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had suggested that his country could hold a security role there “for an indefinite period.”

“We must also work on the affirmative elements to get to a sustained peace,” Mr. Blinken said. “These must include the Palestinian people’s voices and aspirations at the center of post-crisis governance in Gaza. It must include Palestinian-led governance and Gaza unified with the West Bank under the Palestinian Authority.”

“And it must include a sustained mechanism for reconstruction in Gaza, and a pathway to Israelis and Palestinians living side by side in states of their own, with equal measures of security, freedom, opportunity, and dignity,” Mr. Blinken said in Tokyo, where he had attended a meeting of foreign ministers from the Group of 7 nations.

Mr. Blinken offered no details about how such an arrangement might be implemented.

Hamas took charge of the Gaza Strip in 2007 following a bout of factional fighting. But in the wake of its incursion into Israel on Oct. 7, in which it killed more than 1,400 people, Mr. Netanyahu vowed to crush the group. Since then Israel has launched thousands of airstrikes at Gaza, and its troops invaded nearly two weeks ago. The Israeli military says it is now driving deep into Gaza City, the territory’s main urban settlement.

The invasion, however, has raised questions about the political settlement to follow and the potential role for the Palestinian Authority, which administers parts of the West Bank and the 2.7 million Palestinians who live there under its president, Mahmoud Abbas.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/08/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza/blinken-says-gaza-and-west-bank-must-be-unified-under-palestinian-authority?smid=url-share

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iran's Raisi to Attend Summit in Saudi Arabia on Sunday (WSJ, Nov. 8, 2023)

Raisi’s visit would be the first to Saudi Arabia by an Iranian head of state since 2012. No scheduled meetings have been set between the Iranian president and the Saudi crown prince, according to [unnamed] Saudi officials familiar with the trip.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gaza doctor Ghassan Abu Sitta:

Despite the unbearable pain and suffering, the heart wrenching grief and the sea of blood, tears , of severed limbs and broken bodies. I believe that we are closer today to victory than we have been since the process of Nakba began 75 years ago.

Hasta La Victoria Siempre

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

Merkava 4 who? Merkava 4 BOOM

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, the rumours were accurate and David Cameron is indeed foreign secretary. I forgot most things about him. He did call Gaza an open air prison in like 2011, so maybe he'll soften the UK's support of their genocide? (Please let me cope it's all I have left)

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

Is there any centralized listing of pro-Palestine protests worldwide updated regularly? I've been playing with the idea of funding and running such a site myself.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

Courtesy of dimitri lascaris' Twitter - the G7 as the Genocide 7.

Dimitri was the ecosocialist branded potential leader of the Canadian Green party who was stonewalled by the reactionary wing of the party and the current leader Elizabeth May, in favour of Anamie Paul, an idpol enabled technocrat and uncharismatic Zionist coward. The GPC was decimated in the election since.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago

The head of al-Awda hospital in the northern Gaza Strip has warned that it could completely shut down by Wednesday night due to the lack of fuel.

Ahmed Muhanna, the director of the hospital, told Al Jazeera that there are 60 patients residing at the hospital, some of whom are in serious condition.

Some 80% of the patients in al-Awda – one of Gaza’s biggest hospitals – were women and children, he said. Muhanna added:

"We are doing the impossible to continue working in the hospital, but we have no choice after the fuel runs out."

- The Guardian

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's going on with the Zapatistas? Why is the governing structure being dissolved?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

more info on the 'self defense precision strike' in Syria

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told the AFP news agency that nine people affiliated with “Tehran-backed groups” were killed in the strike, however the Pentagon yesterday said it did not immediately assess any casualties.

I'm guessing that's some CIA-front NGO?

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