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[–] [email protected] 114 points 2 years ago (3 children)

now if only they stopped banning us for open sourcing classified military papers on their forums :(

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

Now they can submit classified documents right into the engine code. How efficient.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

I forgot that this was the game that was happening around....

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Would love to read about this if you have a link

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Nice try, department of defense.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

This is hilarious stuff.

In a wonderful example of the importance of epeen, people in heated arguments over there have released classified documents just to prove they're right.

You have a link here for leaked docs for a British Challenger II tank, but its not the only case.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

DO NOT OPEN PRs CONTAINING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.

That is all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Merge PR: incorporate US state documents regarding Apache AH-64D Longbow weaknesses into GPL license text

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There have been some theories floating around that they did this to avoid sanctions so they can share code with related Russian companies.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That seems very unlikely to me.

Based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary%E2%80%93Russia_relations#Hungary_and_the_Russian_Federation: Hungary has mostly remained neutral-to-favorable to russia while remaining part of NATO. So I suspect they don't have as strict export control laws as other NATO countries.

But also: What would be the point of open sourcing your engine so that a russian company can work on it or use it? If you are going to be doing back channel exchange of money to outsource improvements then that is a REAL good way to get your assets seized. And the commit history will be a good indication that something hinky is happening. And if you are going to back channel it you just give them a private FTP server or something.

I am not huge on warthunder so I can't really speak to the technology. It looks like it has some good scale capabilities though. So I could see this as being the first step to try and pull an "Unreal Engine" and branch out that way. Although, odds are this will be closer to a Cryengine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My understanding is VK group is developing something on their engine.

Gaijin founders are Russian, they have major investors which are Russian, developers which are Russian.

While I'm not going to bet on it one way or another I would not be surprised if it was to avoid sanctions in order to keep contractual obligations / make Russian investors happy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would taking a previously proprietary "asset" and making it open source make russian investors happy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Because they are your investors?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

And why are they happy that something they paid a lot of money for is now public?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A more likely, but imo still not realistic, theory I've just thought of is that this was done to reduce intl intelligence services trying to snoop on Gaijin devs because they think could be classified stuff in their source code.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This doesn't contain any of the actual game characteristics though, it's just the engine.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

I don't think that is quite what they mean when they say "OSINT" but good news regardless.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

That is awesome news. Great job Gaijin!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I can now make the most realistic dick copter

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Inb4 some contributor fighting over tabs/spaces drops a live feed of Linus Torvald's bedroom to prove his point