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I say we just don't allow them on most kbin/lemmy instances. Let the people decide what info is bullshit or not.

we shouldnt let them in. they would have done decentralized service years ago if there was money in it for them. They either want us to stop or try to seize control in only way that can -> by worming in.

We must have zero-tolerance for corporations or we might as well just give up.

They what now? Wtf

Bad. I just feel bad.

I think they would take advantage of Fediverse and destroy it.

Meta is a corporation with a really horrible track record

and even if they didn't, it's still a corporation; it only cares for profit

I have very negative opinions on them joining

We know very little at this point. My view is “wait and see”. Little point in speculating about things now IMHO.

I did my senior college paper on the fuckery that Facebook and Meta has caused and how harmful their data collection has been to American society. I will stop using any services that are bought up by Fuckerberg.

I do not want them in the fediverse and will not tolerate them for a second. The moment they form an instance is the moment I block their instance.

Fuck. Meta.

It's hard for me to see anything good coming from this.

I didn’t know they’d joined. Do you have a source for this?

Will be interesting.
More likely to be noticed by calckey,misskey/friendica users who are on platforms.more similar to Facebook. Probably noticed by Mastodon users.

Not sure if kbin/Lemmy users will notice. This is based on me not noticing posts from these servers on Mastodon, calckey etc

Nope. Just nope. It'll be the death of the Fediverse.

People are being really hypocritical.

You want a free open source social network. But when people you dont like join it, you hate it. That is not how it works, its not how FREE in FOSS works.

Meta can join, they can do whatever they want. It literally the point of this social network. If you dont like it, then go to a social network that is not FOSS, but is heavily moderated, because that is what most of you really want.

Nope. Money will buy blood.

Pros:

• my friends join
• larger community = more content
• meta funding would likely contribute to fediverse growth and improvements
• any instance can defederate them from said instance, which would mitigate almost every con

Cons:

• Meta is evil and wants all your information to profile you and sell to other companies for profit

They can fuck right off.

All they'll do is centralize the decentralized.

If Facebook behave and their instances have good moderation, they'll be successful. If they don't, they'll get defederated and turn into some niche twitter clone echo chamber like Truth Social.

Facebook is a company with great open-source tech contributions (React, GraphQL) but absolutely awful products (Literally every social media thing they've got their hands on), which is why they are desperately trying to turn their side project Oculus into their main product. And I think they, as the original "The Social Network" company, see the writing on the wall: that they either embrace federation and decentralization, or get swept away by it into the footnote of social media history.

Now, I don't think Facebook wants to JUST run an instance where they get to control everything. I think the most likely scenario is that Facebook will offer easy managed federated instance setup hosted on their own cloud servers for less tech inclined individuals and companies in the future, and they'll rebrand it as "the actual metaverse", which will finally end their tenure as an advertising company.

I mean everyone could just not federate with them, right?

I don't know anything about it except for what you said, but yeah fuck them. I'd much rather donate my money (well, once I get a job that is) to a bunch of people to maintain a server and simply jump on another instance if anything weird happens than use another Meta's (or any other shitty corpo's) products

For myself, I'm not a fan either. But I think it could be a very good thing for the fediverse (still not a fan of that word)

which, as I understand it, is all about choice: the ability to easily access content across the fediverse, with the ability to ignore it just as easily.

If it ends up breeding toxicity, then I'll block any subs, and possibly the whole instance†. And if it gets really bad, I'll just find a lemmy/mastodon/whatever instance that has defederated from them.

† Sounds like this maybe isn't possible yet, but is being looked at https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2397

Eternal September anyone?

They'll probably adopt, adapt, and extinguish. So no, fuck 'em.

Embrace, extend, extinguish

Pros

• more attention to the Fediverse and all the advancement that may bring with it.
• If the Fediverse ever becomes mainstream corporations will end up with their own content on it so having Meta join would provides early insight on how the Fediverse may be effected by becoming mainstream.

Cons

• Some instances may not have the server load to support being federated with Meta
• There's a decent chance it hinders healthy growth (Like a Cuckoo hatchling that starves out the bird's actual children.)

It's fine and good. Normalize federation

This may be controversial, but I see this as a net-positive for the internet long-term. The more momentum the Fediverse has in terms of growth, the more incentive other services have to join it, and the more everyone on the internet can be on the same page. One of the worst aspects of the internet right now is that different services don't even speak the same language; there's so much fragmentation. The fediverse forces services to be about the quality of the service itself, rather than the quantity of the content being hosted.