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https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

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https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

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https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

‘Security incident’ near Red Sea border with Egypt: Israeli military

The Israeli military has said that is “aware of a security incident” near Israel’s Red Sea border with Egypt, after reports of a blast in the Egyptian town of Taba.

The source of the explosion is unclear.

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Egyptian media: Five injured after rocket falls on Taba

Egyptian media outlets are now reporting that at least five people have been injured after a missile linked to the Israel-Hamas war fell on a building in the Red Sea town of Taba.

Taba lies just across the border from Israel, with the Israeli city of Eilat nearby.

There has been no official confirmation of the incident from the Egyptian government.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In other action, the Committee approved a draft on the right to food by a recorded vote of 180 in favour to 2 against (Israel, United States), with no abstentions, expressing alarm that in 2020, the number of people lacking access to adequate food rose by 320 million ‑ to 2.4 billion ‑ amounting to nearly a third of the world’s population, and that between 720 million and 811 million people faced hunger.

November 2021

Like I understand why the US would vote against it (agricultural company lobbying), but why would Israel? It really seems like voting against that draft resolution provides no tangible benefit to Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (11 children)
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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

inshallah-script many Long Island IDF volunteers will meet their ends tonight

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Comparing how China handles their real estate issues with how Canada handles their real estate issues is really enlightening.

“We are going to be left with so many units,” she said in an interview. “And people have these terribly high variable rate mortgages where long-term income won’t be able to cover the mortgages on these properties. Owners will be cash flow negative.

“We will see that – or we will see a ton of [these units] hitting the real estate market, depreciating the values of them. And I don’t think people are going to cash out equal to the mortgage they owe on the property, so investors will be walking away with empty pockets. It’s terrible.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/vancouver/article-bcs-airbnb-crackdown-will-devastate-some-real-estate-investors/

Imagine complaining that your speculative investment got fucked

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Netanyahu: 'We are the people of light, they are the people of darkness; light will triumph over darkness, and we will fulfill the prophecy of Isaiah'

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Jamaal Bowman was charged with setting off a false fire alarm so as to give Democrats more time to read Kevin McCarthy's spending bill. The bill "ultimately passed with more Democrats voting for it than Republicans." (NYT)

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

🇨🇳 - China removes Li Shangfu as Defense minister, Qin Gang as state councilor, CCTV says per Bloomberg.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sabereen News:

— Leader of the Hamas movement, Musa Abu Marzouk: There are members of the Palestinian Authority and some Arab countries who are secretly calling on the West to eliminate Hamas.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Representative Tom Emmer of Minnesota, the No. 3 House Republican, dropped his bid for speaker on Tuesday hours after securing his divided party’s nomination, after a swift backlash from the right, including former President Donald J. Trump, left his candidacy in shambles.

lmao this is amazing. They nominated Scalise but realized he wasn't viable so no vote, nominated Jordan and held three failed votes, nominated Emmer but realized he wasn't viable either. I think they literally have no viable options.

Next I'm thinking they might nominate another Freedom Caucus member, probably Hern or Donalds, who won't be able to get enough of the moderate vote like Jordan. Then another moderate who won't get the Freedom Caucus vote, and the circus goes on.

Absolute funniest outcome is either Trump or them just putting McCarthy back. Second funniest is no speaker until 2025, especially if they don't empower McHenry to do actual speaker duties.

Unfortunately, Democrats really wanna get that genocide funding passed, so at some point they'll probably cave and vote present or something. But that was speculated for Emmer and they didn't do it.

And some numbers (will include in further comments to keep track of the circus):
Floor votes: 3
R nomination ballots: 8, plus a vote to remove Jordan and two failed post-nomination loyalty votes.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago

A spokesman for the Gaza health ministry said in a televised statement that Israeli strikes had killed nearly 400 Palestinians in the past several hours, raising its death toll in the Strip to over 7,700, including nearly 3,200 children.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/28/world/israel-gaza-war-hamas-news/5212de6e-f785-590d-bf50-447a27bd9cf5?smid=url-share

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Boiling down to fundamentals I've encountered two types of arguments in the past few weeks:

Hamas is beheading babies, so retaliation makes sense, Israel has a right to defend itself, Jewish people are entitled to their homeland

deranged, out of touch with reality, historically ignorant

Well Hamas is a conservative islamic organization led by dudes living in Qatar, so they would just create their own apartheid ethnostate lead by rich palestinians

this is just bizarre radlib bothsidesing using a hypothetical outcome to Hamas winning and them not being perfect secular social democrats

And this made me realize that the biggest propaganda achievement by Israel and the US has been convincing people that this is between Israel and Hamas, and not an anti-apartheid insurrection that happens to be led by Hamas among others.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

🇮🇱🇵🇸 Fighting is currently taking place in the northern part of the Gaza Strip. Significant IDF forces operate in the region.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I've noticed the caricatures of Americans where I live has changed over the years. It used to be a fat, sunburned asshole with cargo shorts and a bucket hat screaming angrily. Women were portrayed as blonde babes showing lots of skin and sleeping with everyone.

Now it's more of an effeminate man who acts stereotypically gay and speaks flamboyantly while flaunting expensive products. American women are depicted as having too much plastic surgery and fillers with an extremely promiscuous attitude.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Everybody take a moment and consider how much Israel's war has damaged the discourse.

Thoughts on Israel and Gaza. It's been 17 days since Hamas launched… | by Barack Obama | Oct, 2023 | Medium

Perhaps most of all, it means we should choose not to always assume the worst in those with whom we disagree. In an age of constant rancor, trolling and misinformation on social media, at a time when so many politicians and attention seekers see an advantage in shedding heat rather than light, it may be unrealistic to expect respectful dialogue on any issue — much less on an issue with such high stakes and after so much blood has been spilled.

But if we care about keeping open the possibility of peace, security and dignity for future generations of Israeli and Palestinian children — as well as for our own children — then it falls upon all of us to at least make the effort to model, in our own words and actions, the kind of world we want them to inherit.

I scrolled to the very end and that's what is there.

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I just realized something obvious. I don't know about the rest of the speech but what I quoted - sounds like The West Wing. I can easily hear it in President Bartlet's voice. In fact - it's easier to hear it in his voice than Obama's.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not 100% sure what these are but look like some leaked documents on plans/orders.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

US stock market absolutely ate shit today after some tech companies reported weak earnings, NASDAQ almost -3%, Amazon -6%, Google -10%

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago

Israel was started by hotel bombers, not surprising their soldiers get a free stay at the Hamas Hilton and they start bombing indiscriminately.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago

Al-Qassam Brigades: Our forces are currently engaged in violent clashes using machine guns & anti-tank weapons with the occupation forces, penetrating northwest Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

BREAKING NEWS : the Israel Defense Forces have begun the ground invasion over the Gaza strip, TASS reported. New updates will come soon on the channel, stay careful.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Sources confirm that elite Navy Seals units, whose members have been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Qaeda, and have over 300 confirmed kills, have been deployed to the Middle East in response to rising tensions in the region.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago

Gaza Update with Norman Finkelstein

Started streaming a little over an hour ago, my bad on the late post

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IDF just doing war crimes bombing hospitals, and even reporting on it, much less a sternly worded letter is going 'too far' and uncivil.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

According to the New York Times, satellite images show that the IRGC missile forces opened long-range missile silos at noon today.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

🔴 Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine:

Britain displaced our people and insists on annihilating them.

The statements and positions of the British government are nothing but an extension of its original crime that caused the Nakba of our people and led to the displacement of millions of Palestinians, insisting on completing the annihilation of our people, displacing those who remain and erasing them from existence.

The statements and positions of the British government are filled with colonial resentment and hatred towards our people, supporting, encouraging, and even pressuring for the annihilation of the Palestinians, through its persistence and insistence on opposing any positions calling for stopping the aggression and genocide.

The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine reminds the British government that our people and the Arab nation have not forgotten Britain's primary role in our displacement in 1948, granting our land to the zionist invaders, and manufacturing our historical tragedy. The current British stance should be held accountable, not just condemned and denounced. The Front calls on the masses of the Arab nation, freedom fighters of the world, and supporters of the Palestinian people to respond appropriately to such a brutal and aggressive stance.

The Front urges the Arab masses, forces supporting Palestinian rights, and all anti-colonial powers, to escalate their resistance against Britain, its interests, its embassies, and its military bases. This feeble specter cannot imagine that its way of regaining its reputation as an open colonial empire comes at the expense of the rights and blood of our people.

Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine

October 25, 2023.

This comes off as a call to violence against Britain.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

1 hour ago

🚨 The IOF continues to send reinforcements to #Jenin and are firing at residents randomly, according to local sources.

Resistance fighters are opening fire on the invading forces in various fronts as they besiege Ibn Sina Hospital.

30 minutes ago

🚨 The IOF is wildly opening fire on Palestinians in the courtyard of Ibn Sina Hospital in #Jenin.

https://t.me/PalestineResist/17304

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