The Agora

nay, down vote and move on. if it really bothers you, unsubscribe/block. defederate only if they start brigading and normal mod controls stop working, if it's just a few bad actors should be easy enough to ban them

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As another user said, hate speech is not free speech. And associating with an instance such as that one could even have legal implications for @TheDude in the future.

Edit: Typo

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Aye for both the primary content and for the obvious dog whistling going on to defend it.

Given the examples, aye

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Block them yourself. Defederation is against the principles of the fediverde. If you are looking for an instance that is more isolated, look into Beehaw.org.

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OP, as this seems to be almost exclusively discussion, and there's currently a discussion about how we should split things between discussion & votes, maybe you could retitle this as a Discussion and hold a proper vote after a day or two of convincing people here? If you want to ofc, those formats haven't been voted on yet.

I do agree with your cause, but with how much of a touchy subject defederation is, it's an excellent test-bed for doing things in as transparent and as rigorous a method as possible.

Nay. You're gonna encounter these people IRL. It's better to prepare yourself in a low stake environment like an internet forum.

~~Overall~~ Aye, but I'd like to see some incriminating evidence of what we'd be blocking as an explanation and a warning before we do it. Pics, text posts can be banned and deleted.

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Nya. Just block them as I'm blocking stuff that I don't want to see. This function is there for something. Defederating is as extrem as the posts they are making

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Aye, and here's why. Exploding heads are not coming into our space and having discussions in good faith. They are acting as a troll farm and being abusive toward our members, and generally not following the rules of the road laid out for our instance. "Beehaw defederated us and I didn't like it" isn't a valid argument as this is a different situation. Beehaw defederated from here because they couldn't deal with the scale of moderating all the traffic coming from here which including abusive troll accounts. Exploding Heads is going by the alt right playbook and is almost exclusively being abusive, even if it's a small number of people.

And it is noticable. I see some people arguing that individuals who don't like that instance should just block it themselves, but that's not an available function of the threadiverse yet. You're saying that our server at large should endure abuse coming from that server because someday the functionality may be implemented for individuals to handle it themselves. I don't think this is a good moderation strategy and will only allow abusive actors to find foothold.

Nay.

All that stuff is basically 0 comment and 0 up vote. It doesn't look like you would end up stumbling in that stuff as trending or whatnot. Unless your subscribed to it or looking to be offended it looks like a non issue. I've yet to see anything from them other then in these complaint threads.

I'm sure there is offensive content everywhere if you really look for it. Even here hence the whole beehaw thing.

I don't think we should defederate to control what other folks expose themselves to. If they were brigading other instances or butting in to be a direct nuisance that would be a different story.

I'm a newer user so I'd appreciate more information before I vote. Why would defederation be more applicable than down voting en mass? From the examples it seems that there are very few up votes on the posts.

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Withdrawn.

There's some content I find deplorable here but I'm no longer convinced that defederation is a healthy tactic to wield like a cudgel in this way. I'm comfortable deciding for myself what content I will and will not see. I think others should be extended the same freedom.

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