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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

shoutout to Ansar Allah fr fr, launching missiles at amerikkkan ships is some gigachad shit

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (10 children)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just standing here, tapping my foot, looking back and forth between my watch and Tehran.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Thousands of people demonstrated in many cities of India in support of Palestine. In Mumbai, Kerala, and Lahore, demonstrators expressed solidarity with the Palestinian people and called for an end to the Israeli occupation and blockade of Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

nerd "Uhm akshually, evidence points to this being a failed Palestinian rocket"

I'm sure it does buddy, now please face the wall.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Biden plans to ask Congress for about $100 billion to help Ukraine and Israel - Bloomberg

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

Can the PIJ hit me up with their 2000 lb high explosive rockets?

People are either missing the fact that Palestine literally doesn't have the capability for this kind of rocket or they're being willfully negligent. In fact, I don't think even the US or Russia could launch this rocket.

For comparison, HIMARS missiles have about 200 pounds of high explosive, ATACMS have about 500 pounds, and Iskander-Ms have about 1800 pounds. Cruise missiles like Storm Shadows and Kalibrs have about 1000 pounds dedicated to their warhead. If this was a missile strike, it would exceed the casualty rate of all Russian Iskander strikes (including those in dense urban areas). It would also exceed the casualty rate of all Palestinian rocket strikes... summed together.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

Death to america, death to isreal and death to every slimy fuck in reddit-logo who are bending over backwards to justify this shit

Some days it's really hard to not let the misanthropy win

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Marines fire teargas at Lebanese protestors at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut - Reuters

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

1000 nazis held up the Russian military at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol for 3 months due to the tunnels there.

vs

40,000 hamas fighters with tunnels they've spent decades preparing

Azovstal had 24km of tunnels, supposedly 5% of Gaza's tunnels.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

Day 2 of asking for North Korea to declare a Juche Jihad against the illegitimate state of Israel

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Biden: We did not inform Israel that we would enter the war if Hezbollah joined the conflict

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ain't no fucking rocket artillery that Hamas or PIJ has is doing that sort of damage. Israel would be a giant crater if that were the case.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iran intervening to save a captive levantine population will unfortunately go right over the heads of most US Christians as they cheer on the occupiers.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

All outlets reporting on “US intel suggests bombing done by Hamas militants”

You know how this is gonna end lmao only 10 years until the claims are walked back

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

NBC reporting on a guy from New York’s “going back home” to fight with the IDF

Millions of boomers tune in every day before jeopardy to uncritically consume this propaganda. Really sickening stuff

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

White House officials silent after hospital blast in Gaza

White House officials were silent in the immediate aftermath of a hospital bombing in Gaza that killed hundreds, unresponsive to numerous questions about what impact the deadly blast might have on President Joe Biden’s highly anticipated trip to the region.

Hours before Biden was expected to fly to Israel for an extraordinary visit to the war-torn region, a massive blast hit a hospital in Gaza, killing hundreds of people.

There was immediate consequence for the president’s upcoming trip, even before Biden had left the White House: Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas pulled out of his meeting with Biden, which had been set to take place in Jordan along with other regional leaders.

Meanwhile, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) denied culpability, saying that it was the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group that launched a barrage of rockets from Gaza toward Israel, and that a “failed rocket launch” hit the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital.

Palestinian officials have said the hospital was hit in an Israeli strike.

The moment vividly captured precisely how much is at stake for Biden as he heads to the Middle East.

US officials had said they had made painstaking efforts to ensure Biden’s security before greenlighting the trip. Biden was also set to emphasize to his Israeli counterpart and others the importance of minimizing civilian casualties in the conflict.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-17-23/h_7620319f5f2cb3842594af71ef0ae73e

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Reportedly in the Avdeevka direction, Russian troops have begun to dig tunnels towards Ukrainian positions.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I turned on CNN and some vile, angry IDF guy was in lecturing in sensationalist tone that Israelis love. He was ranting - "They kill babies." I listened for all of ~5 seconds. Okay, a time for long break from the teevee news.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Must be a total coincidence that all of the ads I saw the last time I logged into instagram were from Israel-affiliated groups!

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just told a Dem that textbanked me that I will not be voting next year because Student Loan debt, and the genocide against Palestine.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Russia uses its veto against a UN resolution condemning Hamas.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Is Justin Amash the first (ex-)member of congress with relatives in Gaza killed by Israel?

He tweeted this.

I was really worried about this. 😔 With great sadness, I have now confirmed that several of my relatives (including Viola and Yara pictured here) were killed at Saint Porphyrius Orthodox Church in Gaza, where they had been sheltering, when part of the complex was destroyed as the result of an Israeli airstrike. Give rest, O Lord, to their souls, and may their memories be eternal.

The Palestinian Christian community has endured so much. Our family is hurting badly. May God watch over all Christians in Gaza—and all Israelis and Palestinians who are suffering, whatever their religion or creed.

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Justin Amash

Justin A. Amash (born April 18, 1980) is an American lawyer and politician who served as the U.S. representative for Michigan's 3rd congressional district from 2011 to 2021. He was the first Palestinian-American to represent Michigan in Congress. Originally a Republican, Amash left the GOP and became an independent on the 4th of July in 2019. In April 2020 he joined the Libertarian Party, leaving Congress in January 2021 as the only Libertarian to serve in Congress.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Israeli media: The date for the start of the ground invasion of Gaza has been delayed, and the army has begun to demobilize reserves

Sussy mindgames imo

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lars Løkke Rasmussen, the corrupt right-liberal turd serving as Danish prime minister was asked in a trap interview whether or not there was a limit to how long Denmark would support the zionist entity in the face of their atrocities. He answered:

There must be room for a nuanced view. And we're recognise the "state of Israel"'s right to exist and the right to self defense. We care about the Palestinians. We are in favour of a two-state solution.

When asked whether Denmark can accept zionist war crimes he goes into a weaving non-answer:

There's no doubt that what we are seeing these days is a very locked game between Egypt who are not really interested in opening the borders because they are afraid to import the Palestinian problem. An "Israel" who has a legitimate need to strike back at Hamas. A line of countries in the region who are playing a sometimes constructive sometimes destructive role and a huge setback yesterday [the zionists' hospital massacre]

When pressed on whether or not the zionist entity should follow international humanitarian law he said:

But it is not very possible if you have to give a sufficient reaction to Hamas while at the same time leaving the door between Gaza and "Israel" open and therefore it is important to get a humanitarian corridor created through Egypt with "Israel"'s blessing and multilateral support

The interview ever with the journalist pressing him on whether there is a limit to what zionist atrocities Denmark will support and he gets grumpy and says:

I think your interview is skewed regarding the message I want to sell. Because your question s to me are about that I have to paint myself into the corner on some "Israel"-axis where it then ends with me having to say that we will either now or under certain conditions condemn "Israel". And you're not getting me to do that!

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago

God what a year yes-honey-left But CyborgMarx it's only been 12 days limmy-awake

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Okay so Israel is just trying to claim “uhhh well Hamas is in the West Bank now” wtf is this shit

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

There's increasing anti-Palestinian police efforts here in the UK. A bar and venue a friend of mine works in apparently had a copper take offense to several year old stickers on the windows that included Free Palestine ones.

I'm not about to give them more attention than they want, so here's a video widely shared online of the filth hassling someone for having a Palestine flag on their property.

It's a perfect summation of the way this kind of pathetic but insidious policing works - they hassle you, they don't have the law on their side, and they act so put out by the whole thing as if you're the unreasonable on for making them come out and systematically harass you. It's insidious, it's a threat, it always includes the possibility of escalations random reprisal. But its also inherently, completely fucking cowardly and pathetic. A class of jackbooted thugs who have been made to play nosy neighbour. At least when the cameras are on and you're in suburbia. If not they'll just execute you in your car and claim they feared for their safety American style.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Confirmed. Israelis admit 4 of their troops were wounded.

Palestinians say they attacked 2 bulldozers and a tank inside the border fence. On the road near Kissufim heading into Khan Yunis. Not far in by the sounds of it.

RPG ambush. IDF abandoned the vehicles and fled.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (3 children)

— List of countries that have asked their citizens to immediately leave Lebanon:

  • Germany

  • Saudi Arabia

  • Canada

  • United States

  • United Kingdom

  • Australia

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

CNN: IDF says sky is red. Why that might be true.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago

There are infants in Palestine that have suffered more than most Israelis will in their entire lives

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Holding a big banner that says "Genocide 'em Biden!" in hopes to sway republicans into voting blue

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think I'm losing my mind

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago

90 sec vid clip at the link

Some displaced Palestinians who followed the Israeli military’s order to evacuate to southern Gaza are now going back to Gaza City. “We were told that the south is safer,” a displaced northern Gazan said. “But we found that death follows wherever you go.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/17/world/gaza-news-israel-hamas-war/651bde60-27eb-51b0-b7f0-0e5ccd718d2f?smid=url-share

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Rattled U.S. government fears wars could spread

U.S. officials say this confluence of crises poses epic concern and historic danger. Officials tell us that inside the White House, this was the heaviest, most chilling week since President Biden took office just over 1,000 days ago.

Former Defense Secretary Bob Gates — who ran the Pentagon under presidents of both parties, George W. Bush and Barack Obama — tells us America is facing the most crises since World War II ended 78 years ago.

These simultaneous threats are hitting at the very moment the American political system seems — and sometimes is — literally broken. Former top intelligence officials tell us domestic unrest is one of their biggest fears — whether it's triggered by court rulings against former President Trump or protests over war in the Middle East.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Biden: I will not talk about the hospital incident in Gaza unless I have confirmed information - Al Arabiyah

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Just saw a picture of zelensky in a different shirt. Really pulling out the big guns to return attention to ukraine

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

IDF now claiming that there was no direct hit at the hospital at all. Guess their current story is that the hospital spontaneously combusted then and that the video of a missile hitting the hospital is fake.

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1714541154178302318

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