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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Someone get me the fuck away from r/worldnews. How do these people get like this? Why do they get so much smug fucking satisfaction from it?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

🔴 The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine:

Today, Tuesday, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine denounces any Arab or Palestinian participation in meetings with the American war criminal Joe Biden, the main driver of the war of genocide against our steadfast people in the Gaza Strip.

The blood of the innocent martyrs in the [Al-Ahli Arab] Al-Maamadani Hospital massacre committed by the zionist enemy drips from the hands of the American war criminal Joe Biden and his zionist allies.

The decision to bomb the hospital was issued by the same zionist war room in which the criminal Joe Biden was present today during his visit to his war criminal allies.

These massacres, which exceeded any other, were the result of the inherent racist criminal tendencies of the leaders of the zionist entity and their allies in the American administration and the leadership of the European Union.

The minimum respect for Arab dignity and identity is for Arab officials to adopt a unified stance by withdrawing from the summit of shame with Biden, the killer of children, women, and the elderly; to boycott the American administration; to expel its military bases; and to close its embassies in the region. This must of course be preceded by a complete closure of the embassies of the state of aggression and zionist war crimes.

The Front calls on the masses of our people in the West Bank, Al-Quds, and the territories of 1948 to move and ignite a comprehensive intifada in the face of this criminal enemy and the herds of its settlers who are committing massacres against our people and our people in the Gaza Strip.

The Front also calls on the Arab masses to besiege the American embassies, the embassies of the European Union countries and the zionist entity, and their representative offices in all Arab capitals. It also addresses the same call to the forces around the world in solidarity with our people, to escalate actions and struggles against the aggression and against the embassies of the zionist entity, the American administration, and the European powers that are partners in this aggression.

This is the battle of Palestinian existence, Arab existence, and dignity. Half-hearted positions in it cannot be accepted. Our people will remain steadfast, proud, and tall, defending their land and their rights, the dignity of the Arab nation and the essence of its existence.

Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Was the Obama era the peak of US power? As much as chuds obsessively hate him, Obama projected a strong soft power around the world. You had people being bombed by the US in places like Pakistan and Yemen saying that they loved the US and Obama himself being a big reason why. His election to them was living proof that the American dream was real. Obama's ability to also interweave with Hollywood helped even more. I've seen people in countries like Vietnam praising the man and wishing their country could have leaders like him back when he was president.

It seems that the US isn't able to get away with as much. Having a charismatic leader with a big presence in the entertainment industry did wonders for the rest of the world to forgive the US.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

can there be a bloomer subsection of the news mega? I want to be a News Enjoyer but I also don't want to suffer psychic damage from reading The News

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (15 children)

I feel like it'd be better to post good news on the bloomer comm so more people see it

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Protests reported near NATO base in Turkey’s Malatya We are getting reports of angry protesters massing near a NATO facility in Turkey’s Malatya province, where US servicemen are believed to be also stationed.

Al Jazeera Arabic is reporting that the demonstrators gathered outside Kurecik Radar Station to denounce the deadly air strike on a hospital in Gaza, which Palestinian authorities blame on Israel.

A video clip posted by Al Jazeera Arabic on the social media platform X, formerly Twitter, showed demonstrators waving Palestinian flags and shouting pro-Palestinian slogans, as Turkish police stood behind guardrails to protect the NATO facility.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

https://streamable.com/67zyrv

Israeli security forces have entered Bethlehem, where they were greeted with stones. Several arrests are reported.

Also Hebron. Multiple shots fired in raids of the West Bank too

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Fucking lol just came across a user posting a link to the blahaj lemmy in one of the literal nazi spaces I have to lurk

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait can Biden actually force TV channels to air his (non-emergency) address?

Isn't that not very freedom of speech-y?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The yuan has overtaken the euro in international payments, according to SWIFT data.

Europe's economic role in the world continues to decline. Actually, this is one of the goals of the war launched by the United States. Eliminate Europe's chances of economic competition with the United States and increase the political, military and economic enslavement of Europe. At the same time, the European establishment is well aware of the detrimental nature of the current course for the European economy, but is forced to submit to Washington’s policies, even to the detriment of its own economy. A clear example of what the lack of military-political subjectivity leads to.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Just in case it was missed due to the hospital bombing:

Gaza: IDF airstrike a UNRWA school sheltering displaced families

“At least six people were killed this afternoon when an UNRWA school was hit in al-Maghazi refugee camp, in Gaza’s middle area. “Dozens were injured (including UNRWA staff) and severe structural damage was caused to the school. “The numbers are likely to be higher. This is outrageous, and it again shows a flagrant disregard for the lives of civilians. No place is safe in Gaza anymore, not even UNRWA facilities." The school was hit during Israeli forces airstrikes and bombardment on the Gaza Strip. "At least 4,000 people have taken refuge in this UNRWA school turned shelter. They had and still have nowhere else to go."

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Turns out the Orthodox church wasn't hit, a building next to it was.

This doesn't change the fact church members and the people sheltered there died. But the third oldest church in the world is still standing.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Bolsonaro supports Trump

Trump loses the election to Biden

Bolsonaro supports Kast.

Kast loses to Boric.

Bolsonaro supports Jeanine

She loses the election and gets arrested.

Bolsonaro supports Fujimori.

Fujimori loses to Castillo.

Bolsonaro supports Milei.

Milei loses to Massa.

I guess never accept support from Bolsonaro.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

https://streamable.com/12dyps

UN diplomats turn their backs to the US ambassador after US vetoes ceasefire

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (13 children)

United States of America vetoed the Brazilian resolution of the UN Security Council to cancel Israel's evacuation orders for Palestinian residents of Gaza to the south.

Total:

— 🗳✅ 12 votes in favor

— 🗳❌1 Against (USA)

— 🗳🤷‍♂️ 2 Abstentions (UK and Russia)

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

no new posts in one hour

I am dying of news withdrawal, someone please give me news

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Hezbollah's Twitter account changed its profile picture to a red flag meaning "Revenge."

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Couple of things on the whole "It wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital" thing. The evidence they provided is flawed, like there's people pointing out that the phone comms between the "Hamas operatives" sounds very weird at best, first because the accent is kinda forced (That is according to arab speakers, and I am not one) and second because it violates every protocol Hamas has, especially considering their comms aren't usually heard by the IDF (because they don't use phones) yet, curiously, they did for this very specific case.

Also the whole rocket misfire thing, like we see in one video that a rocket explodes in mid-air, and seconds after an explosion goes off in the ground. How the fuck did it happen? Does it even have enough time explode, fall into the earth and miraculously into a yard filled with people? Like it happens almost instantly, rocket explodes in mid air and mere moments later a huge explosion below.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

DAY 15! GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 15!

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago

Yesterday Netanyahu quoted the War Scroll. You know your country is politically healthy when you're quoting bronze age apocalyptic texts written by a religious movement that was effectively destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Two US bases in Iraq have been attacked by drones today

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"We will consider any attempt to displace Palestinians from the West Bank as a declaration of war" - Jordanian Foreign Ministry.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Holy shit they got a lot of cope cages lmao

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

Breaking

Other candidates reportedly in the running for speaker:

  • Gus Oil (R-TX)
  • Greg Thomas (R-AL)
  • Drew Gunn (R-AZ)
  • Rick McSmith (R-OH)
  • Carlos Batista (R-FL)
  • Jim Jefferson (R-LA)
  • Jeff Jimerson (R-NJ)
  • Leslie Davidson (R-CA)
  • Mike Michaels (R-NC)
  • Shep Shoop (R-PA)
  • "Coach" Vern Hitler (R-SC)

 

I edited the tweet a little - Nitter

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

::: spoiler 🟢 Hamas publishes a memorandum in English, republished below: Refuting the “Israeli” Claims Regarding Evading their responsibility for the Massacre of the Gaza Baptist Hospital

— Today, the “Israeli” Occupation Entity is trying to evade their responsibility for the crime of bombarding the “Baptist” Arab National Hospital in Gaza City, which the “Israeli” Occupation Forces (IOF) committed on the evening of Tuesday, 17 October 2023. This heinous crime was committed against innocent Palestinian civilians while taking the hospital as a shelter from the flames of the “Israeli” brutal aggression, which left nowhere safe in the besieged enclave. It is necessary to affirm that, the Baptist Hospital belongs to the Anglican Episcopal Church in Jerusalem, and was built before the occupation of Palestine.

It is obvious that the “Israeli” enemy has been spreading lies since the very beginning of his destructive war on our people, when he with no single evidence claimed that the Palestinian resistance killed children, cut off heads and raped women. In continuation of this series of lies, they tried to evade their crime, attributing it to one of the resistance factions. Accordingly, we present some of the conclusive evidence to prove the “Israeli” Occupation Entity responsible for this heinous crime:

  1. It is no secret that the IOF, several days ago, threatened several hospitals in the Gaza Strip, contacting each hospital separately and requesting their evacuation and holding the hospitals directors responsible for the consequences of neglecting the threats. In fact, there are dozens of clear statements from the IOF spokespersons in this regard.

  2. Since the beginning of the ongoing aggression, the “Israeli” army has ignored the principle of distinguishing between civilian and military targets. Thus, the bombardment has systematically targeted emergency services, ambulances, civil defense facilities, schools, mosques, and churches.

  3. The IOF contacted the directors of 21 hospitals in the Gaza Strip, especially those are located in the Gaza and the North of Gaza governorates, most notably: (Al-Awda, the Indonesian, Kamal Adwan, the Kuwaiti, Al-Quds, and Al-Mamadani), asking them to evacuate immediately, given that the hospitals are located within the geographical scope of “Israeli” military operations. In this regard, the official spokespersons for the IOF plus a number of hospital directors conducted interviews live on Al Jazeera, revealing the premeditated intention of the IOF to target hospitals in the Gaza Strip.

  4. On 14 October, 2023, at 20:30, the IOF fired two shells towards the Baptist Hospital, and the next morning they called the hospital director, Dr. Maher Ayyad, saying to him: “We warned you last evening with two shells, so why have you not evacuated the hospital until this moment?!” Following that call, The hospital director contacted the bishop of the Evangelical Church in Britain and informed him of the incident, who in turn contacted international organizations before sending the hospital a message reassuring them that they could remain in the hospital. Yet with no warning, the IOF airstrikes returned, on Tuesday evening, to carry out the massacre against the hospital and the shelter-seekers of the displaced innocent Palestinian civilians.

  5. Immediately after the massacre, the IOF spokesperson quickly published a statement on his page on the “X” and “Telegram” platforms at 21:17, which stated, “We had warned the evacuation of the Baptist Hospital and five other hospitals so that the Hamas terrorist organization would not take as a safe haven”. That statement is a clear claim of this massacre, and it is documented with a “screenshot” image attached to his page on Telegram, but he quickly deleted the post after seeing the massive scale of the massacre for the large number of victims, and the angry responses of the Arab, regional and international communities. Later on, he disavowed it, publish another statement denying that he had issued the first statement.

🟢 Hamas publishes a memorandum in English, republished below (2/2):

— 6) Before and during the event, the resistance factions did not fire any missiles at the occupied territories, the “Israeli” sirens did not activate, and the Iron Dome missiles were not launched. Moreover, dozens of reconnaissance drones do not leave the sky of the Gaza Strip (365 km2), photographing and monitoring every inch around the clock. If the massacre was due to the resistance’s missiles, as the “Israeli” Occupation Entity falsely claim, why would not they show one picture their claims?!

  1. The “Israeli” Occupation Entity claimed that this massacre was caused by a missile launched by the Islamic Jihad. However, we would wonder how they could identify and distinguish between the missiles of the resistance factions immediately after they were launched?!

  2. The IOF military system documents and records all their operations by day, hour, minute and second, and in all previous times their media outlets came out to announce or deny much less severe massacres than this massacre, so what made them wait more than 4 hours before declaring their irresponsibility other than weaving scenarios of falsification, lies and deception?!

  3. It is obviously known that the resistance’s missiles are somewhat “primitive” and do not have the destructive power that kills hundreds at one time. And throughout the history of previous confrontations and the current confrontation, no resistance missile has caused a tenth of this number of “Israeli” deaths.

  4. The only video scene documenting the moment of the explosion reveals that the mass of flame and the sound of the explosion are identical to other “Israeli” bombs throughout the days of the ongoing aggression, which with no doubt proves that the “Israeli” origin of the missile.

The deliberate attack on hospitals is a war crime, stipulated in Article (8, 2, b, 9) of the Statute of the International Criminal Court. Accordingly, Hamas officially calls on the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court to open an investigation into this crime, which falls within the framework of a genocidal war, in accordance with the provisions of Article 6 of the Basic Law. These bloody acts are also based on the policy of denial pursued by the “Israeli” Occupation Entity, as they deny the existence of the Palestinian people.

There is no doubt that impunity fuels crime, and investigating crimes is a way to protect people. Furthermore, if a legal and judicial response is necessary, it is above all that the response to this crime must be humanitarian and global. Such actions must shock the conscience of the world, or else there would no longer be a reliable international community if the “Israeli” Occupation government free to decide to bomb hospitals!

In conclusion, we are facing a genocidal massacre committed by IOF against children, women, and the elderly. The “Israeli” Occupation Entity is the only responsible for the crime, no matter how much they try to weave lies and fabrications to get away with it, as they always do.

The Islamic Resistance Movement
HAMAS-Palestine
Wednesday, 18 October 2023

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago

BREAKING: Israeli intelligence releases leaked Hamas assault plans:

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Who is in charge of Israel's twitter account? This is an official channel of communication for an entire "country" and they have nothing better to do that complain about American celebrities condemning them?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (10 children)

USA about to send 2000 soldiers to Israel

Officials say the 2,000 US troops would not be serving in a combat role.

Israel Defense Minister says its a long war

“Let me tell you, Mr. Secretary, this will be a long war. The price will be high, but we are going to win — for Israel, for the Jewish people, and for the values that both [our] countries believe in,” Gallant tells Blinken, during a press conference at the Defense Ministry in Tel Aviv.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Reports that an IDF unit attempted to storm Khan Yunis but were forced out after coming under overwhelming RPG fire.

If true, this was their first attempt at a ground operation and it was a massive failure.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago

"IDF Northern Command has reportedly notified Israeli Forces along the Lebanese Border that they should prepare for a “Sudden and Powerful” Attack from Southern Lebanon."

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Drop this at Ukraine flags : "Hamas to Palestine is what Azov Battalion is to Ukraine. They are just a minority and we should fund Palestine with all our weapons regardless"

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thinking about making a browser add on to substitute the phrase Joe Biden or president biden with genocide joe

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Finkelstein approaches the lathe with some recent analysis lathe-of-heaven

The Truth behind Biden's Visit, the Hospital Massacre, and Biden's Lie:

  1. Hezbollah and Iran stated that unless Israeli attacks on civilians ceased, they would intervene;
  1. Israel panicked. It can carry out massacres of defenseless populations but it can't fight ground wars. It has dreaded a ground war in Gaza, let alone fighting the Party of God;
  1. Israel begged Biden to visit to protect it from a second-front war;
  1. When Israel carried out the hospital massacre, Biden agreed to lie about the attack only if Israel agreed to cease its genocidal plan in Gaza and allow in humanitarian aid;
  1. Biden lied exactly as Lyndon Baines Johnson lied in June 1967 when Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty, killing 34 American crewmen. Both LBJ and Biden lied to protect a key ally (and, not incidentally, a domestic electoral asset).
  1. Biden will now be praised for his statesmanship in standing by Israel and enabling humanitarian aid to enter Gaza.
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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"Just now Biden stated that he was born in Israel. So he could not be elected president of the United States" - Maria Zakharova on Biden's words in Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Another Russian army tunnel picture near avdeevka.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Spanish Deputy Prime Minister Ione Pellara: Diplomatic relations between Spain and Israel should be suspended

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

OH YEAH SURE IDF, I’M SURE IT WAS A HAMAS MISFIRE OF A CRUISE MISSILE THAT APPARENTLY THEY HAD 100% NO BAMBOOZLE

fuck it all

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