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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Seeing reports that the Israeli embassy in Jordan is aflame

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (5 children)

CW: Bodybags.

https://streamable.com/bobmch

The Archbishop Alexios of Tiberias of the Patriarchate of Jerusalem conducts funeral rites for the martyrs of the attack on Saint Porphyrius Church in Gaza

For the christians perhaps.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So how long until there is a Gulf of Tonkin like "incident", and US claims that an Iranian vessel opened fire on a USA warship.

Maybe the crew on the Iranian boat is mossad agents cos playing to drag the US into war against Iran.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (11 children)

A few days old but just a little bit biblical.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (22 children)
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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (10 children)

okay, so, just so I understand correctly: because the United States dollar is the reserve currency and backed by the petrodollar and all that, they can print basically however much they want, so can they therefore give arbitrarily large amounts of funding to their allies to keep their economies going? but the actual problem is that there's less and less actual military stuff to send to their allies?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago

My spamming of the palestinian aid thread will continue in as many Megas as you can create, Mr Hexbear. YOu can't silence me

https://hexbear.net/post/816379

fr though, come check out some of the great orgs doing work on the ground and consider donating, if you're in a position to do so

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Reddit recommended r/Destiny to me for some reason, and I found the worst people alive

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This war is going to be nothing like Ukraine. Just look at a relief map.

In the Hezbollah sector this is going to be a hill capturing war.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I think any chance of the Brandon Regime walking the Middle East back from the brink might have just been destroyed by the hospital bombing. there’s no de-escalating after admitting the ~800 deaths at a hospital are your doing. this is going to force every involved parties’ hands. i really don’t want to see where this is going.

EDIT 1 DAY LATER: i don’t know why i expected anything other than a flimsy counternarrative spread with the help of the white house

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago

Hezbollah once again strikes at a few Israeli bases, and hit a Merkava tank.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Traffic on the road to the US embassy in Lebanon

https://streamable.com/j2jire

I uhhh wouldn't want to be embassy staff there right now.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Probably a bit late reporting this but the anti-zionist demonstrators were thrown out of the capitol building by cops.

Not sure why they don't use lock on techniques to drag it out like we do over here.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly, if you call the situation complicated, please just ahead and call genocide complicated. Rip that whole mask off because that’s what you’re saying if we follow this comment to its logical conclusion

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I genuinely just cannot even imagine a scenario in which this ends anywhere near status quo ante bellum. I don't know how that would even come to pass. I think the extent to which Al-Aqsa Flood has changed the situation in the Levant won't be fully appreciated for years. Crazy to witness.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Zionist entity: Dropped a JDAM on a hospital killing hundreds of patients while lying to the world with a shit-eating grin

Hexbear: 200+ comment thread of Hey did you know not all Jews are Zionists

This is pathetic. And I checked the time. OP posted this concern-trolling right after the Zionists committed that heinous war crime. I'm surprised more people didn't call OP out for this very transparent attempt at directing attention away from the bombing. Literally pulling right out of the Zionist playbook as a form of misdirection.

The rest of Hexbear has Zionist apologists. They hide their Zionist apologia very well, perhaps even hiding the apologia from themselves, but it's there.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trudeau kkkanada says he is not ready to accept US and Israeli claims that a Palestinian group was responsible for the hospital attack

Cmon now's the time make a statement supporting Palestine, make your dad proud fidel-sarcastic

Also he could make this his moment to piss off the USA like his other dad Pierre did with Cuba

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel could say that hospital got blown up by a dragon and the British press would run with it

Nitter

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nasser would have closed the Suez by now.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Do amerikkka presidents ever make addresses about war and then don’t go to war?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (3 children)

https://streamable.com/qeydqs

Hundreds of Pro-Palestine Protesters Occupy the Capitol Rotunda in Washington DC – Demanding a Ceasefire in Gaza

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hezbollah - presumably - has just launched an interestingly large strike towards northwest Israel. Not like, rockets blotting out the sun or anything, it's in the tens of missiles so far, but they are hitting more villages and military bases than usual.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (11 children)

AP

U.S. President Joe Biden is considering a trip to Israel in the coming days, though no travel has yet been confirmed.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Biden's started his speech. I can't believe the dems actually expect people will vote for this reanimated yet still tired, old corpse.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
  • Doctors Without Borders (Medecins Sans Frontieres, or MSF) has warned that thousands of wounded people in northern Gaza “are in serious danger of dying in the next few hours because it’s becoming impossible to get medical attention”.......The hospital – which the Palestine Red Crescent says Israel has ordered to be evacuated – is located in the southwest of Gaza City, in the Tel al-Hawa neighbourhood. It had previously been rebuilt after sustaining damage in Israeli air raids in 2009.

New analyses cast doubt on Israeli version of Al-Ahli Hospital bombing

from Al Jazeera

New analyses by the UK-based Forensic Architecture research group and the Earshot audio investigation group have again drawn into question the Israeli military’s account of the mass casualty bombing of Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City on Tuesday, which killed almost 500 people.

Both groups’ analyses specifically “cast doubt” on the Israeli military claim that the explosion at the hospital was caused by a failed Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) rocket fired from the southwest of the hospital, rather than an Israeli air attack as Palestinians have said.

Forensic Architecture analysed photos of the impact crater at the scene, saying that “patterns of radial fragmentation on the southwest side of the impact crater, as well as a shallow channel leading into the crater from the northeast” indicate the projectile likely came from the northeast – “the direction of the Israeli-controlled side of the Gaza perimeter”.

Chris Cobb-Smith, an investigator and explosives expert, also agreed the evidence indicated the projectile may have come from the opposite direction claimed by the Israeli military, according to Forensic Architecture.

Meanwhile, a so-called “Doppler Effect analysis” by Earshot, which looks at sound waves related to distance, found the missile likely approached from the northeast, east, or southeast, but not from the west as Israel’s military has claimed.

Earshot’s forensic analysis of an audio recording, purportedly of two Hamas fighters talking about a PIJ rocket released by the Israeli military, also showed that the audio was actually recorded on two separate channels and then edited together.

https://nitter.net/earshot_ngo/status/1715386409782046777

  • The IDF claimed the missile was fired by the Islamic Jihad from a south-western location. If this was the case, we would expect the pitch observed by this camera to increase continuously until the missile’s impact. #AlAhli #IDF 4/7

  • However, the Doppler Effect that we hear indicates that the missile was closer to the camera before hitting the hospital. This would mean that the missile approached the hospital from north-east, east or south-east

  • Asecond video captures the moment of the strike from around 1,500 meters north-west of the hospital. In this video, the missile can be heard moving with a less pronounced Doppler Effect, where the pitch is increasing up to the moment of the explosion.

  • This increasing pitch suggests the missile is continuously accelerating towards the camera until impact. The camera’s north-western location suggests an eastern missile trajectory, further decreasing the probability that the missile approached the hospital from south-west.


Isn't Real is projecting they will strike another hospital -

PRCS shares footage from inside al-Quds Hospital, families line corridor

The Palestine Red Crescent Society has shared footage from inside al-Quds Hospital, showing men, women and children sitting on mats and blankets on the floor of a long corridor inside the building.

“This is AL-Quds #Hospital that is facing threats of bombardment and demands for the evacuation of 12,000 citizens who sought refuge in this place for safety,” the group said.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

So today, western media is gonna do a full court press on “whether or not it was Israel or Islamic Jihad that bombed the hospital”. All the energy will go towards debating who did it, sapping all the anger over it away. Of course Israel did it, it’s even more ridiculous than the beheaded babies thing. But we’re not going to get any admissions that Israel did it until the news cycle has already moved on to something else.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I’m so fucking sick of this stupid bullshit media game of “oh diplomats are trying to negotiate to get aid in” “blinken meets with president fuckface discussing humanitarian aid corridor” fuck ALL THAT SHIT. They’re dying and need it FUCKING NOW. Stop doing all this stupid diplomatic procedural bullshit to make it seem like you care because obviously you FUCKING DON’T because if you cared that people were drinking fucking ocean water and almost dying of dehydration you would actually display some fucking sense of urgency to the public it’s all a fucking smokescreen to cover your asses.

Eat shit and die

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (8 children)

A final solution? Israel is going to cease its “responsibility for life in the Gaza Strip.”

Israel’s defense minister says there’s no plans to control life in Gaza

Israel’s defense minister said Friday that after the country destroys the Hamas militant group, the military does not plan to control “life in the Gaza Strip”. Defense Minister Yoav Gallant’s comments to lawmakers were the first time an Israeli leader discussed its long-term plans for Gaza. Gallant said Israel expected there to be three phases to its war with Hamas.

He said it first would attack the group in Gaza with airstrikes and ground maneuvers, then it would defeat pockets of resistance and finally it would cease its “responsibility for life in the Gaza Strip.”

https://apnews.com/live/israel-hamas-war-news-10-19-2023#0000018b-4cfd-db46-afaf-ecff1ff20000

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (8 children)

We're gonna have WW3 and it's going to be so fucking cool like Fallout I will totally be the hero of the wasteland and a hot babe will kiss me wow-cool-robot

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tsai Ing-Wen standing in solidarity with Israel, no words for Gaza if you were wondering how much solidarity the totally indigenous, totally organic taiwanese separatist party has.

Imagine an entire government full of Liz Warren types claiming indigenous ancestry despite being 100% settler, but there's nobody around to call them out on it. This is what Americans are clamoring to die for and defend.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

anglo-burn news is trying to Orwell the missle strike on the hospital into a memory hole by deliberately using "blast" instead of strike, attack, deliberate or any wording that hints Israel did it.

It's so fucking obvious seeing them all in lock step be stooges and complicit this genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Garden variety fash at Minneapolis trying to attack Palestinian protestors with a box cutter, failing, trying to attack people with a knife, failing as well, and trying to run over protestors:

https://twitter.com/nickwestes/status/1716225860607295877 (CW: screaming)

https://twitter.com/greembeams/status/1716245348438430152

Here's another fash at Eugene, Oregon trying to shoot Palestinian protestors before being disarmed by an armed protestor. This dude is definitely an Islamophobic dEuS vUlT larper.

https://nitter.cz/Johnnthelefty/status/1715924358433243236

I seriously doubt these chucklefucks are Zionists. They're just typical Islamophobic white supremacists.

Compare them with the Zionist fash that Awoo posted: https://hexbear.net/comment/4125080. The protestors need to protect themselves from two varieties of fash: Zionists and Islamophobes.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (3 children)

https://streamable.com/ipicub

Palestinian Civil Defense rescues a Christian woman with special needs from the rubble following an Israeli strike targeting Greek Orthodox Church in downtown Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (20 children)

how do anti-BDS laws even work? Like, is the police gonna force you to buy SodaStream carbonators?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Another video of an Israeli influencer making fun out of Palestinian / Arab women living through bombing and getting ready (with excessive makeup). She’s getting ready with debris covered products, and there’s ‘explosions’ at the end. What sort of sadist racism is this?

The desperate pantomime of a fascist movement circling the drain, these people have turned themselves into soulless monstrosities for the sake of a decrepit empire led by a zombie who thinks it's 1973

A society of death worshipers will always implode

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This image but it's Iran and Hezbollah telling us when Israel has crossed its red lines and they're going to attack (with "days" replaced by "hours")

if anybody's good at photoshop or whatever and wants to take a crack at it then I'll make it the thread image

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Me: Ukrainian propaganda is the most transparent and pathetic thing I've ever seen. It can't get any worse from here.

Zionist propaganda: https://nitter.cz/iamjoelee/status/1716017098655424712

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I googled "baptist hospital" and they gave me a handy "Perspectives" tab full of twitter accounts talking about how this was definitely a Hamas attack that destroyed the hospital and the zionist entity is innocent.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (8 children)

The Israeli government has announced what it has described as a "humanitarian zone" in southern Gaza.

In statements just published on X, the government's unit responsible for the "Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories" (COGAT) said Israel's defence forces has called on Gaza residents to evacuate to an area near the city of Khan Younis.

"The IDF calls on #GazaCity residents to evacuate south for their protection," COGAT said on X.

"Al-Mawasi is where international #HumanitarianAid will be provided as needed."

According to the United Nations' Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia, Al-Mawasi "is a Bedouin Palestinian town on the southern coast of the Gaza Strip, approximately one kilometre wide and fourteen kilometres long".

bruh

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rights group to prosecute Labour's Starmer for complicity in Israel's war crimes in Gaza

International Centre of Justice for Palestinians (ICJP) has today issued UK Labour leader Keir Starmer, Shadow Attorney General for England and Wales Emily Thornberry and Shadow Defence Secretary David Lammy with a notice of intention to prosecute UK politicians for their role in aiding and abetting Israel’s perpetration of war crimes.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231016-rights-group-to-prosecute-labours-starmer-for-complicity-in-israels-war-crimes-in-gaza/

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Al-Arabiya: Israel gives Al-Quds Hospital in Gaza one hour to evacuate it

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