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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While the U.S. has granted a blank check to Tel Aviv, Russia and China have both called for a ceasefire to protect civilian lives.

Beyond being the moral thing to do, given the situational dynamics, it’s also just sound strategy. The Islamic World is rightly aflame in anger at the treatment of Palestinians and now has found a coalition partner which can advance its interests.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

If a state of affairs requires extreme violence to achieve, then it will require extreme violence to demolish. The more violence involved to create it, the more violence is takes to destroy it - they are proportional.

the "exceptions" like the fall of the USSR and the British Empire - "the Bolsheviks killed many reactionaries, and later Nazis, to create the USSR and the USSR fell without that much violence! the British Empire was extremely violent but their countries were given independence in the 20th century!" are false exceptions that are only believable with an extremely narrow definition of violence. with a more appropriately broad definition, the dramatic fall of the USSR created massive destitution and impoverished many people and cut down their living standards dramatically across the former USSR. The British Empire in several cases did "allow" countries to have independence, but many of these countries broke out into violence in the months and years afterwards as the empire-bestowed systems could not be maintained by the typically British-friendly comprador government. in West Africa, we can see many countries that were once part of France but are still locked in their orbit despite having de jure independence, and it will almost certainly require violence to break that state of affairs.

the same is true in Israel. The oppression of Palestinians required extreme, overwhelming violence, and it seems guaranteed to me that a similar degree of violence will be unleashed to topple the regime and restore the basic human rights of Palestinians.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)

has the UK press blamed Jeremy Corbyn for all this yet?

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago

This just in: Hexbear dying as the news mega's stalinium balls weigh down the site

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

On September 8, 1941, less than three months after the Soviet Union was first attacked in World War II, Leningrad (as St. Petersburg was called at the time) was completely sealed off from the rest of the country. Nazi Germany planned to “erase it from the face of the Earth,” according to historic documents. Thus began the Siege of Leningrad, often called “900 Days of Courage.”

What the Germans didn’t count on was that the citizens of Leningrad would not give up. They’d rather die than give up. They would bury artwork, plant vegetables in the Summer Gardens, evacuate children in trucks across the frozen Lake Ladoga, survive on boiling leather belts and making pancakes out of weeds, hold nightly watches to put out fire grenades and work at factories around the clock but never let the enemy step into their city.

Entire Leningrad families died from hunger. There's a piece of bread on display at the [museum of the Piskariovskoye Memorial Cemetery] . A daily ration for the people of Leningrad, it is a 125-gram rock made of sawdust and flour.

https://news.itmo.ru/en/features/life_in_russia/news/9122/

Gallant, using the strongest language of the three, said “we will wipe them off the face of the Earth.”

Their tone signaled Israel may be entering final preparations for what officials believe could be an invasion of the narrow strip of land, wedged between Israel and Egypt, that has been under Hamas control.

https://time.com/6322897/israel-leaders-vow-destroy-hamas-gaza-war/

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (6 children)

GOP freaks have been telling each other that Hamas terrorists have already infiltrated America via the open Mexican border and are ready to attack major cities for the next 12 months in revenge against America for supporting Israel. Sanity has restored 10 points though because at least I'm not on the same side of the line as MAGA chuds anymore like on Ukraine, now all Americans are equally contemptible and wrong instead of merely 60% of them

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's been more than 36 hours since the fascists turned the water off now, right? That's real bad. And forcing people to flee en masse means whatever cisterns or stores they have will probably need to be left behind. The mass removal might have an additional goal of depriving people of supplies. : ( all i've got is this stupid fucking frowny face.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In his first public statement since the start of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, Russian President Vladimir Putin harshly criticized US foreign policy and blamed Washington for the crisis in Israel. “I think many will agree with me that this is a clear example of the failure of US policy in [West Asia],” Putin said during a Kremlin meeting with Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani.

“[Washington] tried to monopolize regulating [the conflict] but was unfortunately unconcerned with finding compromises acceptable for both sides … It put forward ideas on how it should be done and pressured both sides. Each time, however, without taking into account the fundamental interests of the Palestinian people," he added.

Putin's words echo those of Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who earlier this week met with Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Aboul Gheit. "Apart from ending the fighting and solving the problem of numerous civilian casualties that are being recorded, there is also a need to pay special attention to the reasons why it has been impossible to resolve the Palestinian issue for decades," Lavrov said on Monday.

SEND 👏 THEM 👏 KINZHALS 👏 COWARD 👏

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Do you think we could popularise the phrase "Cyberfascism" as a label for all the content that games companies keep churning out that they claim is "cyberpunk" when it's actually like "haha you get to play as a cop" or "haha you're a cyber mercenary, this is cyberpunk I definitely understand this genre" (Bungie's upcoming Tarkov-like game).

The opposite of cyberpunk in my mind is cyberfascism. And this content fits that label real well.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

lol

Schools and universities across the Bay Area said they were bolstering security measures — and in some cases canceling classes — amid so-far unsubstantiated threats of pro-Hamas violence.

Reminds me of this Onion from 2001

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Several unconfirmed reports and videos of clashes with infiltrated marine fighters in Ashdod, the sixth largest city in Israel and twice as far as Asqalan from Gaza

Edit: lmao, now there are unconfirmed reports that the IDF and local police are actually the ones shooting at each other in Ashdod, incredible

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago

Highlight from Al-Qassam Brigades military spokesman Abu Obeida's speech yesterday:

We heard today that the senile old man Yoav Gallant called us "human animals." Perhaps they meant the lions that trampled over their pig soldiers' necks inside their military bases, tanks, and fortresses.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago

lemmy.world turning into a nazi bar faster than germany rn

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If these past few days have taught me anything, it’s that the US populace will always side with the powerful over the powerless.

My folks used to tell me to never believe I read online but never applied that same logic to the TV, which was always the beacon of truth.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (11 children)

IOF says it launched Patriot anti-air missile by mistake

lmao do it again

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (7 children)

CNN said initial US intelligence found Iran was surprised by Hamas’ attack. Then today, the Iranian president and Saudi crown prince talked on the phone for the first time since ties were restored discussing the need to de escalate and end to war crimes in Palestine.

This is something that has been lost. The US does not want Iran getting close with Saudi Arabia so they’re trying desperately to connect them to Hamas’ attacks.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

https://streamable.com/31plao

⚡️🇵🇸 the Israeli settler that Hamas resistance members released with her 2 kids saying she did not get harmed by them and saying that they took her to the borders and one of them gave her a sign with his hands in meaning that she and her kids can go and that’s when she understood that they were released,and then the resistances members walked back to Gaza,she also said that they gave her clothes to cover herself,then she kept walking her way on the borders and that’s when she saw another group of resistance members,she got scared and tried to hide but they saw her and her 2 kids and she was surprised that they kept walking their way to Gaza and didn’t do anything to her and then she kept walking until she arrived occupied cities.

Another video proves Israeli propaganda about the resistance hurting, killing ,r*pes women and children wrong .

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hezbollah now says it has attacked the Israeli Pranit and Avivim barracks

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

seeing reports of a major russian assault north of avdeevka, if anybody still gives a shit about that

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

how many comments would there be if nobody commented about the number of comments

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This news deserves posting separately to my catchup

https://t.me/kataebabuali/10407

Via its channel, the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades, the paramilitary wing of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP, Palestinian Marxist-Leninists), confirmed that a Member of the General Central Committee of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, official of the Prisoners’ Department, Awad Al-Sultan, and a number of his family members, were Killed by Israel Defense Forces

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

Guy on CNN admitting what we already knew: The zionist government isn't going to rescue hostages, so they just want blood.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

optimism levels are varying wildly

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

We are gonna need a bigger Chad column this week

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

The fascists are latching onto this "be careful tomorrow" thing because they see it as an opportunity to make people scared of any and every brown person. Their goal is to increase racism.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

🚨 Gaza Government Media Office:

A new massacre committed by the occupation against three convoys of citizens in different locations on Salah Al-Din and Al-Rashid streets, who tried to reach the south of the Gaza valley as per the request of the occupation army.

This massacre has so far, in a preliminary toll, left 70 martyrs, most of them children and women, and more than 200 injured.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

J Sakai I'm sorry, you were right!

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Rare footage showing the inside of the Palestinian tunnel systems housing missiles.

https://streamable.com/8g1svd

Now scale it up and consider the thousands upon thousands of rockets that have been fired.

Clearing these tunnels is going to be impossible.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Israel don't have enough guns for standby units? lenin-confused

Kann News: The Ministry of National Security purchased 4,000 assault rifles for the standby units and 6,000 more will be purchased later, Ben Gvir appointed retired chief of staff Shimon Lavi to project the recruitment and arming of voluntary civil combat units

https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1711650780128637122

Also they're beginning recruitment for the death squads now.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/09/eu-freeze-of-palestinian-funds-sparks-diplomatic-row

Apparently EU statements that aid to Palestine would be suspended were just some guy going off. Apparently Oliver Varhelyi was speaking out of turn and did not have the authority to make those decisions.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

Hamas terrorists have scattered ball bearings on the roads out in settlements they have withdrawn from, creating a trip hazard and posing a lasting danger akin to landmines. The IDF have decided to answer this devastating attack by blowing up another hospital.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Caption

Palestinian children look at the building of the Zanon family, destroyed in Israeli airstrikes in Rafah, Gaza Strip, Saturday, Oct. 14, 2023.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

A talking head - a former Obama guy - just said something like "Iran would love to bleed Israel dry in Northern Israel and in Gaza." Yeah, just like the US loves to do right now to Russia in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Iran: Heavy losses will befall America and Israel because of the attack on Gaza.

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