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[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As long as three different religions all think important fiction occured in Jerusalem I don't think there will ever be peace in Israel. Does that mean a Palestinian state should not exist? No. It absolutely should and could.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think this is widespread myth. This has been a heavily populated region for thousands of years, and most of them haven't looked like the last 70.

Also, I think we need to stop talking about Palestine should exist" and start working towards the one-state solution.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Tell the people building a wall to keep the other people caged off about a "one-state" solution.

You can argue "there are good/bad people on both sides" doesn't change that one segment of the population is being treated like a caged dog...

...And then we wonder why the dog bites the hand that feeds it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Honestly, I'm not sure what your point is, but the One State Solution is the the preferred outcome of most Palestinian youth and most antizionists. Among everyone familiar with the issue on both sides, it's clear that the two state solution is dead, and only exists as an empty phrase to delay the only remaining option which would give Palestinians any civil rights.

https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/palestinian-youth-and-the-futility-of-the-two-state-solution/

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/middle-east/israel-palestine-one-state-solution

https://www.thecairoreview.com/essays/the-case-for-the-one-state-solution/

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The two state solution isn't workable, because Israel will never allow a viable Palestinian state. The only three options are

  • genocide
  • a permanent state of apartheid
  • giving the Palestinians the vote and letting the political chips fall however they may

All three options have downsides, but in my view the third choice is the only one that's sustainable in the long run and not morally monstrous. But I have no confidence at all that that's the pathway that will be chosen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

What, pray you, is the nuanced downside to genocide?

Edit: lol I forgot the /s didn't think it was necessary. Your wording was funny to say there's a downside to all 3 like genocide is even an option

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Nobody left to feed the cats

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Bad press. Gotta worry about stray kids getting all angry and coming at you years later. It’s a lot of work. But, they learned from ze Germans

Guaranteed the Israeli govt talks about it as a viable option, the blasé attitude of their soldiers when it comes to shooting children or anyone not Israeli is an example. They’re just as bad as the saudis, our money lets them have carte blanche for whatever the fuck they want to do

[–] WeirdGoesPro 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No more Palestinian food. /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not promoting genocide. That's definitely a downside lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

People die.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

Looks like the author is suffering from amnesia.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Always so interesting when these things happen, every internet commenter is an expert on any complex situation.