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I don't know if you've noticed this, but threads or comments about Lemmy or the Fediverse get downvoted a lot on Reddit and trolls who claim that it's "dogshit" and "not going anywhere" get systematically upvoted.

Some of those trolls get then exposed when you ask them what Lemmy instance they tried and one of them with whom I had a surreal exchange answered with something like "yeah ofc I used Lemmy, this is the instance: join-lemmy.org" 🤦‍♂️

It's frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that "Lemmy is not ready yet" and that there's "no viable alternative to Reddit".

This and the overwhelming number of comments being "against the mod protests" just prompts me to question whether there isn't some brigading being organized straight from the Reddit HQ.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

@AlmightySnoo "Bots brigading against Lemmy"

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are the reports of warnings for posting Lemmy links true?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Haven't encountered any so far, mostly just getting systematically downvoted for mentioning Lemmy and then getting attacked by trolls like the one I mentioned, who without surprise always get upvoted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't care to be honest. Let reddit be shit, all sorts of slander origi ate from there anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of these guys asked me to think about reddits revenue… very strange

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

They adopt the same bizarre rhetoric: "Reddit is bleeding money", "3rd party apps are circumventing Reddit's ads and losing them money" etc...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

As long as they do it on Reddit I really don‘t care anymore. Probably with the IPO Reddit will run all sorts of "opinion forming" bots and ban dissidents and so on to make sure they seem like they got the community behind them.

I just hope they leave us alone here and mostly anti-spez people come to form new communities here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

and for some bizarre reason, there are people here who want to scape all this reddit crap with a bot and dump it in our /all feed. I just dont get it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This place is becoming an echo chamber.

I don't doubt that there are bots in the comments on Reddit (as if that can even be disputed) but pretending like nobody could possibly just not be interested in moving to lemmy is wrong. There's lots of teething troubles here still which need to be resolved before most people will consider it. Whinging about astroturfing comment sections isn't gonna make dankmemes or pcmasterrace come to lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I've seen users against the blackout get downvoted but at the same time suggesting or even asking about Lemmy also gets you downvoted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah it's good that this type of comments are being left there and not here.
Also I don't think is a good idea that an user that's looking for reddit 2 comes to lemmy or kbin just to shit on it cause is not reddit 2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Dunno if you were around then, but people on Digg acted the same way toward Reddit before Digg crashed.

If we stay on this platform and continue to grow and create content, then when Reddit again does something to annoy its years (they probably will), we can be here to take advantage.

The downside is that every great growth in users will affect the platform/site culture, not always for the better. It depends on the users and the size of the migration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you”

Honestly, it would not shock me if Reddit HQ was amplifying these comments. They are going to do everything they can to ensure that their IPO goes well. All we can hope for is for someone to blow the whistle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That's what it felt like for me after I posted anything lol. But is it bots, is it Reddit themselves?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

My two cents: good! Let the shitty people stay on reddit. I'm loving the respectful communities here on lemmy, and don't really want those clowns coming over and messing it up for us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I just deleted all my posts, comments and my account on Reddit. No need to get frustrated over people who wants to be a part of that shit show. Also you can't be sure that they are real people and not paid trolls to discourage people. At this point anything is possible with Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I haven't noticed.

However, something I have noticed about people is that they justify their behaviour.

So if they buy a Toyota and Dad has a Nissan, he'll ask them why they didn't buy a Nissan... If they buy a Nissan and Dad has a Toyota, they'll similarly be able to fight for their corner.

What people don't do is to buy a Nissan and say 'sure, I bought the dogshit car because I'm stupid'.

Something that's true is that Reddit aggregated a lot of behaviour on internet, and so it's obviously true that Lemmy cannot compete with that - not even close. For many use-cases, there are no viable alternatives.

The best thing that will come of this is that people become aware that they have alternatives to Youtube/Google, Reddit, Facebook, Chrome etc.

People need to work to build an independent internet and not allow this shit to happen.

They need to stop signing TOS agreements that they can't even read through or comprehend.

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