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I don't know if you've noticed this, but threads or comments about Lemmy or the Fediverse get downvoted a lot on Reddit and trolls who claim that it's "dogshit" and "not going anywhere" get systematically upvoted.

Some of those trolls get then exposed when you ask them what Lemmy instance they tried and one of them with whom I had a surreal exchange answered with something like "yeah ofc I used Lemmy, this is the instance: join-lemmy.org" ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

It's frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that "Lemmy is not ready yet" and that there's "no viable alternative to Reddit".

This and the overwhelming number of comments being "against the mod protests" just prompts me to question whether there isn't some brigading being organized straight from the Reddit HQ.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I reckon it's mostly bots set up by Reddit admins and sad-sack mods who consider Reddit moderation to be a full-time job

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

No, I wouldn't notice because I don't use reddit anymore.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's definitely corpo sockpuppets and bots involved, some of which have even straight up posted AI bot warnings about not being able to generate offensive content (oops!) but there's plenty of ignorant people too.

That said, I'm kind of OK with them staying on reddit because people like that had been making reddit progressively worse for years and years at it gained popularity. Hopefully the relative obscurity of Lemmy will prevent that from happening for a while yet.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Let them stay there then. We can't force people to join us here. If they choose to believe those kind of brigading comments then they do not have the level of critical thinking to become a meaningful contributor to any site. Those who wanted to move have already moved. Those remaining there are those who chose to ignore the issue, or support reddit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I came here to look to see if this topic was covered. I just checked my mod queue and every single post made by my automod OR other users about Lemmy was reported multiple times for "harassment" with 40+ down votes as well. I've literally never had a full mod queue that was more than 6 things before and I had 30 or more posts to approve with 3 being actual things. What the fuck.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't be surprised at all if it's reddit themselves reporting and downvoting posts with bots. Spez doesn't have a clean track record after all.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

If they want to gate-keep themselves then fine by me.

I legit joined this instance yesterday because I'm not going to trust the claims of randos (who are now very easy to see as frauds) and although I agree that Lemmy needs some work, it's responsive and reasonably usable. I'm impressed at how well it's handling the massive Reddit migration.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It wouldn't surprise me, a lot of people don't care or just aren't interested in change.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Honestly I'm quite alright with that. If we can get a good core user base on here it'll feel like reddit did earlier in it's life. Once the masses came and posts regularly had over 10k upvotes the content began feeling more and more soulless.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the majority of those people just don't care and are against change.

I can say that to the non-technical person, Lemmy would be a bit confusing due to having to pick a server. However, once you get past that point, Lemmy is a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit, as long as the user base remains active.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

That's why you just link them to lemmy.world, problem solved.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I went to have a look back in United Kingdom sub and seemed even more right wing and the think-tank bots paid posts than normal.

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