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Update: Due to overwhelming support for defederation, we will be going through with that at 12am Moscow time (approx. 8hrs from now). Thanks to everyone who provided their feedback.


It's come to our attention that the admins of europe.pub are allowing pro-genocide rhetoric and Nazi propaganda to be freely posted on their instance.

Additionally, the main perpetrator has been promoted to moderator on the [email protected] comm where they consistently post pro-ukrainian-nazi propaganda and wish death upon the Russian people.

Due to these factors and the unwillingness of europe.pub admins to act, we are holding a vote to defederate from their instance. Please comment with either an emote or yes/no to the question: should we defederate from europe.pub?

eu-cool or "Yes" - Defederate

poland-cool or "No" - Remain federated

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago

eu-cool

Who needs Europe when Indonesia exists

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

eu-cool

These are the 11 people at the table seated around the nazi letting them talk and hanging on to every word.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You'll get banned like me for saying that to their German admin's face lol.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Calls everyone a nazi who disagrees with them"

> looks inside

> Holocaust denier

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's even funnier that it took as long as it did for this whole thing to snowball considering that banderite has been posting nazi shit from day one on the EU pub's Ukraine comm purely because I removed that comm on our end God knows when because it was filled with banderite nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

banderite has been posting nazi shit from day one on the EU pub's Ukraine comm

Speaking of which, if anyone wants to take a tour of that space to see what's in the box, I've unilaterally un-removed the Ukraine comm so people can see what they've been missing out on from the comfort of their hexbear account instead of having to go onto the awful europub UI.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

eu-cool

lol, this fucking person even came over here to defend her favorite nazi collaborators. https://hexbear.net/comment/6220999

The admin also basically admitted they made her a mod to troll people who didn't like fascist rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

Comments are still open for any good anti-fascist to get their sucker punches in before the buzzer finkelstein-lambaste

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

Additionally, the main perpetrator has been promoted to moderator on the [email protected] comm where they consistently post pro-ukrainian-nazi propaganda and wish death upon the Russian people.

The real fucked up thing is being a mod of a Polish comm while denying war crimes perpetuated against Polish people. This is how far gone the admins are in "sticking it to Putler."

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Very eu-cool

Also does anyone know about feddit.uk's apparent refederation? Did they walk back their transphobia?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (27 children)

Yes, see their new much stricter guidelines on transphobia here. Due to that and blahaj choosing to refed with them, they were readded to the allow list

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

I wish all nazi collaborators a very nice defed immediately

eu-cool

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

eu-cool

EU libs getting cozy with fascists as a 'joke' shocked-pikachu

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

I guess I'll be an enlightened, radical centrist and abstain.

I'm cool with defederating them, but also think it would be fine to stay federated with them and PPB them until they defederate with us, which is probably inevitable. Either way, fuck those Nazis.

refuse-the-question

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Jesus christ, absolutely death to nazi Europeans and all of their forums. eu-cool

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

poland-cool We struggle less among ourselves when there is some chum in the water. Bully the Banderites until they cut us off.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Nie mam siły patrzeć na takich kompletnych debili, weźcie się kurwa pozbądźcie ich żebym mógł znowu lurkować w spokoju. Nie mam jakiegokolwiek zamiaru widzieć takiego gówna sortując po brigading

A poza tym kim ona jest, żeby zarządzać społeczność o Polsce? Czy ona nawet umię gram polskiego? Czy jest zaznajomina z naszą kulturą (lub jej brakiem lol), realiami politycznimi i ten teges? Jakby z takim podejściem do Rosji to pasowała by w sam raz do naszych libków ale chuj, tylko tyle ją łączy na pierwszy rzut oka. Jakby też, co to kurwa za posty, powinna pisać w społeczności ukraińskiej czy coś.

eu-cool

Ingles?Nie chcę mi się kurwa, poradzisz se. Mądra z ciebie morda. stalin-heart

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Just like clockwork, the Ukrainian fascist who's now in charge of the Polish comm @[email protected] is silencing actual Polish citizens to push her genocidal historically revisionist propaganda in a vain effort to silence and bury the truth that the heroes the current Ukrainian regime worships was as murderous and genocidal as the German Nazis they worked for as Schweinehund cronies

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm just mad their jackass admin deleted my refutation of that banderite when I posted the full source of Władysław Filar Article titled "Antypolskie akcje nacjonalistów ukraińskich" in full Polish, in respect to the fact its a Polish Community that should be filled with Polish language, and not with a bunch of Ukrainian fascist nonsense.

Source of article below.

https://www.lwow.com.pl/wolyn.html

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

eu-cool The only activity on that instance is the admin, the nazi and hexbears.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yes, also tell them they can suck me

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

They don't deserve your bodily fluids.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Yes, I do believe that Moscow must be destroyed, thats why my advice to all people - run away from Moscow) Destruction of Moscow is not "calling for genocide of entire ethnic group", you are misleading readers and slandering me.

Photos are very easy to fake. Can you distinguish Ukrainian from a Russian? These are ordinary Russian fakes and are not evidence at all. Back in the early 20th century, Russians dressed up as Ukrainian defenders (UPA) and committed crimes in order to accuse Ukrainians. I asked you specifically because there are certain features by which you can determine what Nazism is. Can you name them? And then what force is the opposite of Nazism. It seems like a simple question.

Absolutely. Because Polish politicians use Volyn tragedy to manipulate minds of Poles. And I believe it is unfair to accuse Ukraine and Ukrainians in crimes made by Soviet regime. Why do Polish politicians do not talk about crimes of Moscow in Poland? Obviously Polish politicians are working in interests of russia... Poland has a good tradition when their goverment betrays them...

It is unfair when Ukraine and Ukrainians are accused in crimes made by Moscow regime. OUN and UPA in case you do not know were fighting against soviet nazi from one side and against german nazi from other side. But 'winner writes history' and the winner was USSR. Polish people you should understand one thing, Ukraine will fight for you if your country will be attacked by russia. It is the most important that you should know.

This is hateful antiukrainian speech aimed to destroy relations between Ukraine and Poland, to get the support of the Poles in the future actions of the government in order to prevent the victory of Ukraine, as well as to prevent the restoration of the Commonwealth. This is a primitive post, you will not succeed, you will pay for all your crimes, you will pay with own territories. MOSCOW MUST BE DESTROYED!

Is it antirussian to blame Ukraine and Ukrainians in crimes made by Moscow regime?) Either you support Kyiv or Moscow. Poland, Belorus without Ukraine are unable to defend themselves. Did polish people forget how they occupied Moscow under leadership of Ukrainian hetman Sahaidachny and polish king Vladyslav?

Very weird poster. It's also odd that Ukraine is taking credit for atrocities apparently perpetrated by the Soviet Union? I wonder why they made this one month old account a mod. Also a very poor understanding of history.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder why they made this one month old account a mod

I told them to ban her if they wanted to salvage their reputation and they opted to make her a mod instead to trigger tankies. There was no thought process outside of that.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Russians dressed up as Ukrainian defenders (UPA) and committed crimes in order to accuse Ukrainians.

Tell her this is Russian anti-banderite propaganda and she should kill herself for betraying the White race.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

poland-cool

If an instance is making it more difficult to maintain a safe space for marginalized people on hexbear, that's when it needs to be axed. But it seems to me that a lot of these "yes, defederate!" arguments are more just about how obviously wrong and bad the mods and admins of these other instances are. And yes, they are wrong and bad, they're fucking disgusting. But by cutting ourselves off from ever being able to even see the shit they post, are we helping hexbear be a better place, or are we only making it so our correct analyses and perspectives are seen by even fewer people (including lurkers and potential comrades on the sidelines)? I'm not saying I have the answer to that question, I do lean more towards it being the latter, but maybe I'm wrong.

The most interesting threads to me are often the ones where hexbears, lemmygraders, and some .ml's are schooling the libs and tearing down the fash. When we defederate from the instances where said libs and fash think they won't get any pushback, we not only make it so those threads don't happen for us anymore (and I respect those who prefer that, dgmw), it also makes it so all that disgusting shit goes more unopposed on the rest of the "lemmyverse." It also makes it so our comrades on .ml, those who do speak up to counter the lies, are more likely to get dogpiled into silence without hexbears even knowing, let alone being able to come to their aid in the posting trenches.

It looks like this is already a landslide for "yes" but I still just have to say that I feel like by doing that we're just making it easier for them and (while it might seem parodoxical) worse in the long run for us, for reasons similar to what others like @[email protected] and @[email protected] already said elsewhere in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

eu-cool

Yea absolutely defed

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

eu-cool

but also death to poland

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

eu-cool

They basically made an Ukronationalist, crypto-fascist a mod just to own the tankies, so this is just formalizing a decision they already made.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

poland-cool

We should bully Nazis more. It's like one Banderite anyways.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

No.

I always learn something whenever we bully people and the folks here bring out their paragraphs of sources.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

eu-cool I don't think I've ever seen an @europe.pub user here having good opinions, like I fairly frequently do with @lemmy.db0.com users, for example.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have no idea what this discourse is about, but any opportunity to have fewer white Europeans interacting with us on a daily basis is objectively a win. eu-cool

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

I usually don't vote in these, but in this case:

eu-cool

Absolutely time for a defed

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

eu-cool

Fascists not welcome.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Do we really need to ask? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

L eu-cool

I remain vindicated in my belief that any European instance is a shithole

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