We're probably going to see Skyblivion and Skywind release before TES6...
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I just realised the other day, that with the common definition that retro is older than the last two generations, Skyrim's original release is retro as it was a PS3 game originally....
Arena released in 1994.
Daggerfall 2 years later in 1996.
Morrowind in 2002, 6 years later.
Then Oblivion came in 2006, 4 years.
Skyrim was 2011, 5 years.
Now 12 years later, all we got is a 5 year old trailer and Todd once telling us they where still thinking aboht the setting.
Just let that sink in...
Not only is it 12 years later, but when the game does finally come out it's going to be the usual Bethesda bugfest. And I'm sure that'll be left to modders to patch, as is tradition.
But because it's Bethesda, most people will eat it up.
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Oh man. That just feels like yesterday. Still haven’t found any game that’s close to Skyrim. Only game I can think of that similar yet different in its own unique way that I absolutely love is Dragons Dogma. Can’t wait for Capcom to show more of DD2 on Monday!!
I thought Kingdom Come: Deliverance came pretty close to delivering that "Bethesda-style" immersive RPG experience.
Interesting. Never really tried that game. Does it have fantasy elements and magic?
There's a variety of drinks and ingredients which behave like Elder Scrolls' alchemy system, but there's no spell-slinging or fantasy monsters. The setting is a semi-historical portrayal of medieval Bohemia.
Honestly with how shit Bethesda has been, and my low opinion of Skyrim compared to the earlier Elder Scrolls games, i'm not that excited. Like all AAA games nowadays its gonna be a buggy and unplayable mess. And once it gets fixed, people will realize it wasnt even a good game in the first place.
I came in on Oblivion and loved it. For as much of a mess as Skyrim was, I enjoyed it. I've found it very, very hard to go back and play Morrowind (or earlier games) as a newcomer without a pair nostalgia goggles. I agree, like all Bethesda releases, it will be a buggy mess. But I'm still looking forward to it. I just want another entry in the series to get lost in, but that's probably just my depression and me looking back at more than a decade ago with my own nostalgia goggles.
I never cared for RPGs growing up but when KotOR came out when I was in college I was immediately hooked! My next serious dip into the RPG pool was Oblivion and I loved it!
Skyrim, for how much it improved on Oblivion didn't capture me the same way. Despite it red-ringing my 360 the seemingly endless random dragon attacks made me outright quit the game. It wasn't until last year I gave it another shot on XBone with the anniversary edition and even then it wasn't as enthralling as everyone makes it out to be
KOTOR is one I've wanted to try, but worry it'll be a Morrowind experience for me. I was excited to hear about the remake, but that seems like it could be in limbo at the moment.
Oblivion was far more vibrant and fantasical-feeling while out and exploring. Skyrim felt very dull and depressing, but that was also the vibe they were going for. I don't fault anyone for not liking something. Hell, Witcher 3 should be right up my alley on paper, and I just didn't end up enjoying it, even after giving it several hours at a friend's recommendation.
For me, my issue with Skyrim was largely with mechanics. I like a little number-crunching in my RPGs, and trying out different builds. Skyrim just felt too... streamlined I guess. At this point I'm a little wary of games that advertise "play any way you want!" since it often feels more like "do whatever you want, none of your decisions matter"
The color palette in Oblivion alone is more vibrant and saturated than the one in Skyrim. Skyrim is a lot cooler (white balancing wise) and greyer in tone, making it feel a little drab compared to the lush greens of Cyrodiil.
At it's release though, Oblivion was the prettiest in-game forest around.
Edit: Cheydinhal in particular. Such a pretty city. Sadly it's super fugly in ESO, but it's absolutely gorgeous in Oblivion.