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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

People are tired of this war. Putin wanted to secure food reserves and have an open access sea port for his military; however he wasn't honest as to his reasons why; understandably so. Given this the Russian public doesn't see the actual geopolitical value of the conflict. This was inevitable. If Russia couldn't play nice with the rest of the world as their money mostly comes from oil and gas; which we are moving away from. Let them pay for their crimes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The rebellion has started. Let's hope they win. Wagner group aren't great people, but Putin is worse for giving the orders and calling the shots against so many innocent lives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As bad as Putin is, I'm not sure Wagner would be better. They're even worse thugs than Putin :(

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I wanted Putin to go, but this might be a "be careful what you wish for" thing.
They should just be a nice mixed economy low corruption actual democracy (a super scandi) and the russian people free and happy goddamit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

If they would merely keep Rostov, a city with one million citizens, this would already be an enormous problem for Russia. But the Wagner group is going all-out, and I strongly doubt whether they'll be able to oust the Russian government.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

If there's one thing I've learned from my history classes it's that power vacuums (or even perceived power vacuums) and the ensuing instability always end well for everyone involved....

/s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Popcorn material.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

lol he switched sides? ah, classic.

Russia/Putin is boned, Wagner is all they really had left for non-shite fighting capacity

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

This could definitely be a powder keg moment in some way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Supposedly they've already agreed to retreat to Belarus? Shortest coup ever, or a dog n pony show.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (10 children)

If true, this is a major setback for Putin.

I don't think this little rebellion has a chance to overthrow Putin. Maybe if all of Wagner rebelled?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Somewhat unexpected (at least for me). I don't expect much from this, but it may be the start of more general dissatisfaction in Russia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I wonder if Flight of the Valkyries plays wherever the Wagner Group goes. (For at least two reasons.)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

0-100 real quick. He was not joking on the whole revenge thing.

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