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I still can't understand why americans still tolerate tip culture.
We don't have mandatory tips in Europe and still have people working at McDonald's or similar restaurants : In France, it's even one of the biggest employer of the country.
this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2023
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I only tip at full service restaurants, barber shops, and for specialized full services that I want prompt responses (bars, hotels, rideshares).
Convenience stores, fast food, self service kiosks, medical services, oil changes, I'm not tipping you for doing a low skilled task or something insurance covers.
Do barbers also depend on tips? That’s need to me.
I'm an American who has lived abroad for over a decade now. I'm amazed at how stuff has changed. When you don't go back all that often it really hits you
If tipping culture dies because of this and workers are actually honestly compensated that would be a good thing.
I tried to do grocery shopping at instacart recently.
The prices looked good, I spent some time making a bigger basket(around 100$) and went to checkout. Then I found out that they charge service fee about 13$, delivery fee 4.50$, heavy fee and at the very end they also added tax. My 100$ shopping was now over 120$ but then they asked me to tip the driver and options were 10% or 20%. I tried to enter custom amount but was discouraged with a scary prompt saying that my driver will see the tip and that tips under 15% are highly discouraged as my order might be deprioritised... so all those service fees, delivery fees and heavy fees are just used to run the website?! But actually paying your own employees? Nooo... that's up to you, kind stranger on the internet! Please, be generous (we are tired to look for another poor bastard every two weeks or so)!
I refuse to use most of those services for this exact reason.
I'm not going to engage in any class warfare... restaurant staff actually get LESS than minimum wage, because tips are supposed to offset the loss. Of course they're going to want more money; they probably NEED it. Having said that, I rarely have two dimes to scrape together, and my tip limit is 15%, give or take. I mean, I'm not going to count it out to the penny, I'm not that much of a tightwad, but I've got my own expenses. If I can't realistically afford to eat out, I'll just make a sandwich at home.
How about making employers responsible for actually paying their employees?
Employers will never do this. They would rather allow their employees to starve.
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restaurant staff actually get LESS than minimum wage, because tips are supposed to offset the loss.
In the US, tipped minimum wage + tips must be greater than or equal to regular minimum wage. If not, employers must make up the difference.
Not in California - in LA they get $17/hr + tips.
The biggest advocates for tipping culture are the restaurant workers - if they were paid commensurately they’d lose money since it’d be all taxable. And we all know that tipped employees all definitely mark the accurate amount of cash tips received on their taxes each year…
Does anyone have a concern about what happens when NOT leaving a tip at these places? I don't enjoy tipping before I have received service (fast food) but am unsure of the ramifications of not doing so 😬
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I'm not really a tipper but i don't have a problem with them asking. my problem is when they don't list no tip as an option..
"We just shifted how the money came in," Neitzel said.
We know you greedy trashbags. Tipping isn't necessary and a detriment to the experience.
amen.
It’s absolute BS that the “tipped” minimum wage is lower than for everyone else. Tipping is supposed to reward you for excellent service, not subsidize the fucking company
yeah, whoever lobbied for that and got that bill passed was evil.
republican but same thing