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here are some hyper-polluting individuals:

  • the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
  • Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
  • Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)

relevant quote:

But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.

Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)

edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.

edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.

She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…

and another good comment

[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.

sources/timeline for the above:

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I think you know there's a big difference between going outside and being in a crowded airport.

And, again, she doesn't have to own the jet. She could charter one. Anyone can charter a short flight for a couple of thousand dollars.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Yes, an airport limits the amount of people, has a very high coverage of surveillance and a high ratio of security staff as well as an entry barrier and dedicated VIP areas. A generic place outside has none of that. Although feel free to elaborate on how an airport is worse for security than just being on a street, anywhere.

To your second point, sure she doesn't need to own them like nobody else does, but the issue (for me) is not primarily that she (or anyone) owns one, but that they [private jets and private airports] exist, and they're subsidized by us as it was pointed out above. If anything, they should be priced outrageously so using them would come down last resort or emergency situations, and the money from that could help balance the cost of the "public" infrastructure. This is a failure of the government, but equally so of the rich who choose to continue using them for their luxury.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I still don't see what the difference between a chartered flight and a limousine is other than one is in the air and the other is on the road.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean, besides the massive reason people are criticizing her for private flights in the first place? If we just forget about the multiple magnitudes of difference between fuel usage of a car vs a plane?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you understand the difference between a chartered flight and a private jet?

Also, I already said that it doesn't mean she should fly as much as she does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you know what an airport is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please answer my question: Do you know the difference between a chartered flight and a private jet?

Because I am talking about chartered flights and you are talking about private jets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chartered flights are still tracked and followed.

As shown by your link you keep spamming

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No... that link was to a private jet being tracked.

Charter flights can be tracked, but you can't tell who has chartered them.

Which you would know if you understood that, yet again, chartered flights are not the same as private jets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Unless Im reading the article wrong, Im pretty sure that was a chartered japanese service

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