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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (91 children)

There's been a lot of posts about Palestinians and Muslims seriously arguing sitting out the next presidential election. To all the ppl who constantly argue how stupid and reactionary doing so is, what exactly are they suppose to do?

Simply vote for the man who is actively supplying the weapons to kill your family/kill ppl just like you because Trump is a giant bigot? Thankfully i don't have to make such a decision but I wouldn't blame anyone (especially the family of a dead relative bombed by Israel) to sit this next election out.

For Muslims and Palestinians this next election is a Murderer vs a Murdering racist

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As is always the case when it comes to elections, choosing to not vote for the lesser evil is just voting for the greater evil

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Which is unfortunate because it then becomes a matter of “I am voting against the candidate I don’t like” rather than “I am voting for the candidate I like”, and the voice of the people get lost.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Welcome to FPTP voting. System is working as designed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

While I would certainly love to see us replace FPTP, I'm not sure it would change much. Democrats have had two good bites at the apple of picking a progressive candidate in the last two Presidential Election cycles. The second bite even had several options across a spectrum of progressiveness. The moderate, old, white guy candidate won overwhelmingly both times.

We need more than a change in voting systems. We need a change in views.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

In a healthy democracy, the second part of voting would come into play: You contact your local representative, and tell them what you want them to do. If enough of a representatives constituents directly voice their disapproval, the representative is forced to act, or else lose those voters. Its essentially lobbying, but leveraging your vote directly.

The caveats of course are that it doesnt work well for minorities, and you need a healthy functioning democracy, so, your mileage may vary :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yep and we wind up in the exact situation we're in as a country currently. These people are demanding that you keep the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That voice exists in primaries and local elections. The general is for strategic voting. It's how all party politics works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Always been that way, unfortunately

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