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I have seen that the lemmy.ml mods will openly ban discussion about the CCP. I am wondering if the sh.itjust.works team allows criticism of government bodies, while still banning racism.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (85 children)

The Chinese Communist Party is absolutely not above criticism, but I always found the China obsession on reddit to be odd. While I don't think it should be banned outright, I think y'all ought to consider what is motivating such a weird fetish (because frankly that is) for a specific government.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

There's a crazy amount of sinophobia on Reddit, but let's be clear, the people who fervently defend the Chinese government are being just as disingenuous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's not sinophobia to criticize the CCP. I haven't seen anyone saying anything about the Chinese people. What's more common is criticizing the CCP and its actions as the ruling party of China. I don't think there's generalized "sinophobia" as you claim.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The commenter above made it pretty clear that criticism of the government, i.e. the CCP isn't the issue. The issue at hand is that there most definitely is casual racism on some very popular subreddits that are tolerated more than I'd like. Redditors have blindspots, just like anyone do, but their particular blindspots include casually racist attitudes towards Chinese people. I hope that you're just lucky in the types of threads and subs you frequent, but I 1000% have seen more than just casual sinophobia that had nothing to do with criticizing their government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

idk maybe i am indeed very lucky cuz i have not seen that, and instead have seen a lot of criticism against ccp being re-purposed as "sinophobia" by the genzedong community.

notice, for example, how we ended up talking about racism in a thread about criticizing the CCP. coincidence? i think not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't really know who they are, but it's still important to consider even if some bad actors also bring it up disingenuously. The alt-right likes to call everyone groomers now, that doesn't mean grooming is a convenient smoke-screen that isn't real.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i don't know what you're talking about here. what's important to consider? that criticizing the ccp may be racist? and what does the alt-right calling ppl groomers have to do with the topic? sorry i don't see the connections here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I'm saying that it's important to consider that just because disingenuous people call attention to something as a way to dismiss your argument, it does not mean it's not real. It just means they know how to dismiss your argument really well.

What does that have to do with the alt-right? Because lately any time someone says that it's not evil to be gay and that pride month isn't some national holiday to turn everyone gay, instead of trying to defend their insane stance they just call you a pedophile or groomer and leave it at that. They don't actually care about pedophiles or groomers, otherwise they'd actually do something about the church or conservative congress members either being investigated for or charged with sex crimes against minors. All that matters is whatever works to shut you up.

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