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[–] Stanley_Pain 21 points 2 years ago (35 children)

Yes, Israel is a terrorist state.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (33 children)

Did I name a country? Did I name a group? No.

I don't know for myself what all factors led up to the current situation going on over there, other than what the news and media presents. As if I trust everything I hear on the news...

But I do know the extreme destruction and massive deaths we're all seeing on the news. That's not a conflict, a conflict is when two dudes fist fight at a bar.

To call the events going on over there a conflict is a goddamn joke, call it for what it is, terrorism.

[–] Stanley_Pain 13 points 2 years ago (31 children)

Being ignorant of the facts doesn't change them.

Israel colonized and displaced the indigenous population 75+ years ago and have been doing the genocide thing ever since.

I agree it's not a conflict at all but a genocide.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your education is lacking . 76 years ago Jewish people owned little bit below 2% of the land, other populations owned about the same.

The rest was owned by the state. At no points in history the Muslim population in Israel owned the land.

They could have stayed in their home if they didn't attack the new born country on it first day of existence. Arab villages that kept to their own are now part of Israel, with equal rights and everything.

And where did the Jewish population come from? Some were living in Israel for hundreds and of years and some for over 1000 years. See Zfat for example.

The rest? The rest are refugees from both Europe and Arab countries.

[–] tocopherol 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If Palestinians didn't attack the new born country in 1948?? How do you think Israel was created, without any violence? It was an act of mass displacement with numerous massacres by settlers, supported by western powers.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Jews and Arabs fought way before 1948. Including displacement of Jewish communities that existed for over 1000 years.

When the Brits wanted to GTFO they suggested the land will be shared equally. Local Jewish leaders said okay, Arab leaders said fuck no.

When Israel was created all Arab neighboring countries tried to take a bite. They lost some ground.

Years later they prepared to attack Israel again, so Israel eliminated their armies in the six days war .

This led to Israeli control over the west bank and Gaza. Which Jurdan and Egypt didn't want to take back, as the local population was kinda shity. They are now known as Palestinian.

Israel is not without fault, but painting it as a colonial project is delusional.

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