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Former democratic party activists are organizing Muslims and Arab-Americans in Swing states to vote against Biden with the demand that he support a ceasefire in Gaza.

I'll allow them a little bit of electoralism this time.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (112 children)

Good lord, so the plan is to vote for Trump? The guy who has a pattern of simping for right wing authoritarian fuckheads like Nettanyahu?

Honestly, their efforts would be much better spent trying to get election reform like ranked choice voting up as local election issues in order to break the two party system's kneecaps.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (69 children)

the plan is not to vote at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (68 children)

I'm failing to understand this POV. Even if you think neither outcome is good why wouldn't you do what minimal thing you can to keep the worse option from happening?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would they ever change if people keep supporting them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It seems to me that when it comes to the late late late point of who to vote for president, the time to change them has passed.

I'm my mind, the time for a "change" vote comes during primaries. When it comes to the official vote (especially presidential), I vote for the least fascist candidate... who has a chance at winning, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And there lies the rub. Bernie was ratfucked during the primaries so that Joe could get the nomination. The machine would rather be in control and lose than let the popular candidate win.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, I voted for Bernie in the primaries and then Biden in the general. I'm pissed about how Biden became the candidate. I still voted to negate a Trump vote. What am I missing?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That your unconditional support is the sort of thing that makes the ratfucking a viable strategy. Just look at that fucking interview where a reporter points out that most voters don't want Biden to run again and he counters that they also said they would vote for him if he was the general candidate. This whipped attitude is openly being cited by these monsters as being what enables them even among populations that hate them. They have long given the game away and you keep fucking falling for it irrespective!

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