Every liberal, they are reborn anew each day with no memories whatsoever of the past
this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2023
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Liberals are the ones supplying israel, making BDS illegal, now making protests illegal. If you ask them "do you support genocide?" of course they'll say no. They'll just continue shaking hands with them, buying and selling weapons systems from them, buying their spytech and strawberries, making joint science projects and smearing everybody skeptical of israel as anti-semite.
Liberals are sinking refugee ships in the mediterranean , when people dare to escape hellhole liberals made 20/15/10 years ago in countries mentioned in the picture above. Who funds frontex do you think? Its not landed fucking gentry or council of kings. What do you think aircraft carrier group is doing near israel, having a nappie time?
And fox news are liberals. And have you seen reddit?
EDIT: I didn’t realize I’d stumbled into a specific socialist space, I was reading all of this as “liberal” in the typical usage in American politics—because that’s the way I’ve encountered its usage 99.99% of the time in my life. Why don’t you all say capitalist instead of liberal?
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Umm, it doesn’t matter who is in office, America would be supporting Israel because they’re our ally and a vital toehold for our interests in the region. If you think a republican president/cabinet wouldn’t be saying and doing all the same shit then you’re really washed.
“Fox news are liberals”
Oh, so no wonder you’re blaming it all on liberals, in your mind literally 99% of the population are liberals?
You’ve clearly spent far too long just telling yourself all the bad things are cuz of liberals rofl. Next you’ll be saying it was liberals behind the citizens united ruling and liberals cutting taxes for corporations, and defunding the EPA, and trying to ban contraception, and make voting harder for citizens, and gerrymandering to disenfranchise black voters.
Next you’ll say Liberal presidents have historically been worse for the economy! (Go ahead, look it up)
You've the writing style of a teenager. I will assume you are, so forgive my condescension:
Assume ignorance and then ask for elucidation rather than take positions you are unaware of.
That said, liberalism is the dominant and hegemonic ideology of the capitalist world order. A conservative and liberal both support property rights and nominal support - on a spectrum - for equality and liberty. (e.g: The conservative party in AUSTRALIA is literally called the Liberal party)
Therefore, liberals as a term by socialists encompass left-liberals and right-liberals, dems v gop, labour v Tories, etc. All on the same spectrum of Liberalism and capitalism.
Why even use the term liberal at all then and not just say “capitalists?” I don’t often find myself in specifically socialist spaces so I assumed by liberal you just meant leftist in general.
Because an ideological adherent who is also just a worker is different than people who own capital goods (means of production).
In other words, Just because you work for the king doesn't mean you're a noble, just that you profit off of the aristocracy.
Leftism or leftist are always anticapitalist, and always seek the abolishment of private ownership of capital goods in favor of collective ownership and planning. A leftist isn't a Bernie Sanders supporter who just wants college or free healthcare.