One of Ukraine's staunchest allies, Poland, has said it is no longer supplying weapons to its neighbour, as a diplomatic dispute over grain escalates.

Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Poland's focus was instead on defending itself with more modern weapons.

Other conservatives will likely want to follow suit

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (13 children)

what does "conservatives" mean in poland?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In this case it seems farmers. Maybe it's just posturing for appeasing them.

Extract from the Economist:

Eastern european countries have been among the staunchest supporters of Ukraine since Russia invaded last year. But that solidarity has frayed over the issue of agricultural exports. European Union member states that border Ukraine have argued that the duty-free import of Ukrainian produce to the bloc has caused havoc in their own markets

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2023/09/19/why-is-ukraine-suing-eastern-european-countries-over-grain

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I always thought the goal was to bring down grain prices after getting choked from the war.

I am not sure I agree with Poland's outlook on the situation. Mainly because the goal was to feed people, not keep prices the way they were. And more grain was going to do that.

I understand Poland wanting to arm itself in a war with China or Russia, but I don't understand the reaction just because grain prices might go down because Ukraine is doing a great job of defending.

Then what was the point of Poland's assistance to Ukraine in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

It might be just internal politics before an election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Or, just put the duty back on the duty free grain?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There are two problems. The Polish government directed their farmers to increase output before this happened. And the Ukrainian grain that isn't allowed to be sold in Poland anyway (they adhere to EU minimum food standards, so they are not allowed to use Ukrainian grain in food production (it's produced for example with cheaper fertilizers and pesticides banned in the EU)) is finding it's way into Polish markets -illegally that is- and crashed the price.

They could address their issue about corruption and effective EU laws about food safety getting broken... or they could create a general ban (basically make something illegal that isn't legal in the first place) and spin a story about bravely defending their farmers from the EU (...from getting fucked over by their own corruption actually - but don't say that quiet part out loud).

It's election time and they are populists running on anti-EU narratives. So option 2 it is.

PS: Ukraine's government is also not blame-free here. Their grain should be transported through Poland, not be sold in Poland. So the public push back against a ban that isn't affecting that (transit is still allowed), should not generate such a reaction. They are either just stupidly over-reacting or -and that case would be even worse- complaining that they are not allowed to exploit Poland's internal problems to sell their grain there directly. Which is of course easier for them... but that was never the intention when allowing the transport of Ukrainian grain.

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