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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (9 children)

it is in poor taste, but for those who came of age post-9/11, that one day was used as a cudgel for years by the worst types of people for the flimsiest appeals to patriotism. the flag humpers and such. also, state sanctioned violence (evictions, unaffordable health care, covid 'rules') have killed millions more than that one attack. it was a matter of america's chickens coming home to roost, as malcolm-checks would say

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

and there's no nuance around it?

The fact that the whole ordeal was a giant fucking tragedy caused by American imperialism is funny for that reason, not because those people are dead.

That is the nuanced take.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I think that everyone here does have a nuanced take on this, don't get me wrong - many of you appear to be much smarter/well read than I am at this point. I just thought it was kinda weird to log on and just see a bunch of lulz with no other discussion from anyone at all; but I guess that's because you've had this conversation before. That said, there are people who would totally joke about this without having that nuance so I was just making sure I didn't enter the twilight zone or something lol.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don’t want to speak for everyone but I’ll say this for myself.

After being told for over 20 years that I should still be morning these people and for the same amount of time our foreign policy hasn’t gotten any better, in fact it’s worse just makes me angry. They died and we’re worse as a country for it. It makes me deeply sad, but at some point the sadness just became a bitter sense of humor I reckon as a defense mechanism so I didn’t truly descend into madness.

Or in other words, it jokerfied me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Lollllll jokerfied. I think how you phrased this resonates with me. The anger and furiousness can only last so long so it turns to gallows humor.

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