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Although I have not watched a lot of Hasan videos , I think he is not actually leftist ! He is liberal at best , posing to be leftist ?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Gateway leftist, it’s all okay, don’t get attached to Internet personalities, if you like listening it’s fine, just don’t be parasocial with podcasters.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

hasan isnt a gateway, he is a leftist. as long as you ignore the contradictions of him living in a hollywood mansion and engaging in treat culture, the dude is a very important internet personality because hes basically using his immense wealth and privilege to do praxis like every day. hes a bourgeoisie class traitor like fredrich engles. nothing less than complete uncritical support for hasan should be from this website. he is far more influential here than the chapo podcast.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably has done more for the left than me. He’s a guy, Chapo dudes are people, im just saying don’t be to attached to the personalities in a positive or negative way. If you like the context listen, if you don’t, don’t hate and froth when people say they do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

no great leftist movement has ever existed without a cult of personality.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Idk to what extent you can call him "bourgeoisie". He's rich, for sure, but he's not profiting off of anyone else's labor and twitch/amazon is directly profiting off of his.

He doesn't own a factory or a business with employees working for him. Unlike most workers, he has more agency over his own work but he still has to run a certain minimum amount of advertisements as dictated by the platform owners, for example.

I don't know enough theory to know where exactly the line is or if a certain amount of wealth just makes you bourgeois anyway, but yeah, I don't think it's that clear cut with our favorite gorillion-dollar-gucci-mansion-socialist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah he's more like a professional or a petty bourgeoisie. Really not much different from a movie star

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"very important internet personality" is a contradiction in terms and streaming isn't "praxis" in any sense, but otherwise i agree with the general thrust of your argument

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