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It was only a matter of time before an irate tradie threw hands at them.

We don't get paid to sit in traffic.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Isn't the irony here that making cars sit idling instead of getting where they're going causes more pollution?

Who are these protests convincing? Do they even say what their demands are other than a completely unspecific and unhelpful "combat climate change"?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (11 children)

They actually are quite specific in what they want, they want a restoration of all our intercity rail services, to a level of service that existed back in the nineties. It's not about commuter rail, as many commenters here seem to think.

In other words, they want the government to spend a few hundred mill on rolling stock, and still more on other subsidies, on a service that would take nearly twice as long to go between Auckland and Wellington as a bus. They've completely lost touch with reality.

This is also ignoring the fact that diesel rail isn't that much better than road transport, and can even be worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In other words, they want the government to spend a few hundred mill on rolling stock, and still more on other subsidies, on a service that would take nearly twice as long to go between Auckland and Wellington as a bus.

Driving time WLG <=> AKL is about 7.5 hours. Assuming a 15 minute break every 2 hours, that's about 8.5 hours. It's 650km, so that's about 76km/hour on average. I'm sure a train can go as fast / faster than that; definitely not <40km/hour like you suggest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The northern explorer is 10h 15min Auckland to Wellington, and travels almost exactly the same distance.

I thought it was slower, but it's still much slower than road transport.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep as right now it's a scenic route, so no focus on speed. I agree, right now it's not a very good alternative to driving. That's the point, that should be improved; it should be faster than driving.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's actually faster than a bus somehow, although a bus ticket is forty bucks.

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