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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I think there's value in distinguishing between extremists and people searching for easy answers. For example, I could certainly find you a few very moderate Democrats who nonetheless believe in massive conspiracies against their own ideology. We notice it most with extremists, in part because if you're gonna believe in conspiracies, chances are you're gonna believe in radical solutions to them, but the essential problem is that people want to know that there's a core problem at the heart of the world, and that it can be solved, in some form or fashion.

Unfortunately, the world is infinitely complex, and most issues have many inputs, and all solutions have costs. Not equal inputs or equal costs, but still. But that's less comforting - that suggests you can do everything right, and still fail. Who wants to think that? So instead, they turn to conspiracy - of COURSE it would work, if only you got rid of the Kulaks/Jews/Liberals/Poors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Why not get rid of poors? They don't like being poor, right? So if we provide equal opportunity to everyone — they could become a middle class. Or be themselves responsible over their economic state.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I expect that's not what ancaps mean when they talk about 'physical removal', but it is a good undertaking for anyone who's not oriented towards cruelty.

Alternatively, there can be no middle class without a lower class simply by definition of 'middle'. XD

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I mean, a classless society would be a genuinely good thing. It's very important that your means of creating said society matches the values that you want that society to have, though. Authoritarian communists fail pretty hard on that front.

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