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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Very unfortunate that it doesn't have seamless surface to space travel. It's 2023 Bethesda!

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I think digital foundry hit the nail on the head when they said "This isn't a space simulation like No Man's Sky or Star Citizen, it's a Bethesda RPG with space as a background setting". For a lot of people that's not a bad thing, but the advertising for this game set expectations wrong.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Still, the seamlessness should be there, I don't care how they mask it, but it should be there somewhat, again, this is 2023. It doesn't even do simple fade to blacks, but full blown loading screens everywhere.

Also, travelling with the ship mechanic is incredibly, frustratingly cumbersome. For example, let's say you wanted to jump to Sol for the first time, in Starfield, you'd do:

  • Select and mark your destination through map screen.

  • Somehow exit the map screen (either mash B or hold B and tap B again to exit the menu, cumbersome)

  • Highlight your weapons with the D-Pad and mash down button.

  • Highlight GRAV and mash the up button.

  • Enjoy game stripping controls away from you.

  • Go back into map screen to mark surface spot you want to go to.

  • Hold X.

  • Voilà, you're there, insantly.

Why have an entire space mechanic, if you're just gonna make it frustrating to interact with? Game is okay with teleporting you around at times, but not others as well. It literally disrespects your time, but not in a good way. Speaking of a game that disrespects your time well, it's Elite, which the flow of events would be:

  • Open Galaxy Map with Y+Left D-Pad and select a destination.

  • Exit with tapping B, once.

  • Align your ship with the destination and throttle up.

  • Tap Y to initiate jump.

  • Enjoy being able to look around or (albeit barely) interact with your screens.

  • Open System Map with Y+Right D-Pad and select your destination.

  • Align the ship with destination.

  • Open Navigation Panel via X+Left D-Pad, select your target and enable Supercruise Assist.

  • Enjoy ship taking you there, feel free to interact with panels, photo mode, chat, etc.

Sure, it's a lot more complicated as it is a sim, but see that you don't really do redundant actions and you're in control most of the time. Also, no loading screens as the jumping effect will mask the system change, and the "dropping from Supercruise" screen will mask the second loading screen. Funnily enough, you'll wait more but feel like it took less.

I don't want Starfield to be be Elite or Star Citizen, but it doesn't even have the rudimentary systems in place. For example, I thought you were able to fly anywhere with your ship in the atmosphere and outside it. Just not seamlessly transition between those. That'd be "possible" to have as the game already does this technically. It just isn't there for whatever reason.

Also this basically breaks exploration as the wast majority of travelling you'll do is via the menus and loading screens due to the exact same issues. I remind you this game was marketed as an exploration game with 1000 and whatnot.

This is also the case for game play as well. There are just way too many loading screens. Especially weird when they already have airlocks which would mask vast majority of those perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I agree the current UX is bad but I don’t want seamless transitions… I just want a nicer UI.

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