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You're not blaming the poor, but you're still pointing to population growth as the cause, which raginghummus convincingly argued against.
Pretty sure that he pointed out that a small fraction of the population is responsible for an absolutely disproportionate amount of emissions. Is really decreasing the population necessary, or would it be more effective to decrease the emissions of the current population, since we see that a lot of emissions come from so few people?
Also, industrial revolution changed more than just population, I'm sure you know better than simply implying that such a correlation as you describe implies a causation.
Yeah I (and probably everyone else) agree that indefinite growth is not sustainable, but no-one argues for such growth and as far as I know there are no reasons to suspect the world population will grow indefinitely.
I don't know of the top of my head how sustainable a lower-middle class Westerner is, but my guess is not overly sustainable, as it feels that modern society is made so you naturally emit quite a lot. My guess is that we could sustain 10 billion or a bit more, I haven't really heard any convincing arguments we couldn't. I agree there must be an upper limit, but I think it much be much further than you think.