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Russians are employing this dastardly new technology called "mines" which no army on earth has encountered before, least of all those of the NATO members like France, Germany and the UK.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Oh you're doing some weird thing where you amass all your force in one point in order to cause a breakthrough, which you then push as far as you can? We make deep battle lines and disrupt your logistical capabilities.

Oh you've got super fancy tanks? Have you heard of landmines?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Create a whole naval doctrine centered around carrier's and their defence? Hypersonic cruise missile that blows it up in one hit, rendering almost 80 years of NATO doctrine fucking useless. Hell, even the DPRK has it but somehow america doesn't.

Super complicated top of the line tank hailed the world over (leopards), gets owned by dudes with soviet t72s and t90s

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Super complicated top of the line tank hailed the world over (leopards), gets owned by dudes with soviet t72s and t90s.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Tigers in WWII got owned by the T-34.

People talk a lot about its design, but first off: transmission broke. Secondly the German cats might've been designed well (I disagree on a lot of forms) but if they can't be produced, and they can't be utilised effectively in the war that they are created for, then their design isn't actually good. Design isn't just a questionbof "who can think up the coolest thing?" It's also - and much more so - a question of "what is realistically possible?"

Saying Soviet design was "worse" because it was simpler or not as fancy is silly. Soviet design was better, because while it might not have as many fancy doodads, it was actually able to be produced, used, maintained and repaired. What good is your tank if it never even shows up on the battlefield?

It's the same with the F16s Ukraine is allegedly receiving. This supposed wonderjet can't handle dirt on the landing field, it can't deal that well with rain, and it requires very specialised crew. I dunno if it's stats are better or whatever, but it doesn't matter if it can't even take off.

And this attitude is so typical for the west! so-true "Our leopards will crush the enemy"
jetstream-troll they might've, if they didn't run headfirst into landmines before anything else happened.
so-true Our bastions in Afghanistan are filled with high-tech, they will crush any engagement with the Taleban ".
shrek-troll they might, if they weren't perpetually undermanned by people too tired to stand because a child with a rifle kept the base on high alert all night.
so-true Our chinooks are able to transport troops anywhere.
joker-troll They might be, if you had any troops to transport.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I forgot we had jetstream-troll around lol

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