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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

Real response to get some shit started:

Core Midwest: Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa

Upper Midwest: Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin

Outer Midwest: ND, SD, Nebraska (parts at least)

I will never recognize: Missouri

Everything else below Nebraska is "Plains" IMO.

South of the Ohio River is upper south.

Western PA and Pittsburgh can be "Midwest" if it wants, but the rest of PA isn't and the majority of the state doesn't qualify, so we'd have to balkanize.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

how can iowa be part of the core, but not wisconsin or michigan??

the core midwest are the great lakes states: wisconsin, michigan, illinois, minnesota. i’ll typically put indiana in there too

then, there’s the peripheral midwest, which i typically consider part of the midwest: iowa, ohio, nd, sd

finally, there’s the not-really-midwest: nebraska, western PA

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iowa is the paradigm midwest state, how the fuck can it be peripheral??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

that’s fair - i’d be comfortable moving iowa into the core. i left it on the periphery because western iowa is very much great plains-esque

regardless, if iowa is in the core, then so is wisconsin and michigan

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