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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (21 children)

This is funny, but it's not really what I'm seeing from them. They all seem real upset that the Epstien files aren't being released. So far they're mostly blaming Pam Bondi, but if Trump keeps telling them to forget about Epstien, they might abandon him. They'll bend their conspiracy theories around Trump, but if tries to break them, they'll turn on him (...or say he's been replaced with a deep-state body-double clone).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There will be a bit of whining from the more vocal faithful, as there always is, but I don't think that this time is the time they'll really turn against Trump when they're already 11+ years brainwashed and have accepted and *'art of the deal'*ed his backtracks and flip-flops so many dozens of times in the past.

It's a cult and Trump is the cult leader. They won't stick firm to their demand for the files, because the great orange one has told them that demand isn't important anymore and is giving them new things to focus on. Epstein's files aren't core to their identity, but MAGA and Trump are - one will give.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Maybe. I think a problem they've been having since the collapse of the Q account is that there is no centralizing force to help craft narratives. In the past, when Trump would make an move incongruous with their conspiracy, Q could release a cryptic statement and a series of Q influencers would step in to turn it into a something that fit the plot. Now Q is gone, and Q influencers are in the White House, so there's less cohesion behind a narrative and less excuses for why the, "deep state," hasn't been exposed. Conspiracy theories work best as an opposition movement, not a governing party.

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