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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It's interesting in the case of Ukraine (also with cluster munitions): the problem is that they leave UXO which is then a danger to life and limb for decades after the war. But, so is being under the thumb of a murderous, genocidal dictator. So surely the standard should be not an outright ban, but a ban on using mines outside your own territory, or the territory of another country with their consent?

It gets difficult with territorial disputes but it also needs to be practical.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It should be a total ban.

Unfortunately for it to work, you have to get everyone on board. Russia is currently using mines in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like Ukraine should be able to use any defensive weapons they want, especially as the US continues to screw them over

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Chemical warfare? Cluster munitions? Bombing of population centers?

The point of international law on warfare is that they apply to everyone regardless of circumstances. What you're suggesting is war crimes in self-defense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

When it's being done to you the rules go out the window. I think this is a study in human nature. When you're about to be killed would you kill the person attacking you? Would you lay down on your principles and just die? I don't know the answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

If a government is fighting for survival while it has a bunch of horrible weapons lying around like I described, they are absolutely going to use them. No question about it. That's why you should ban the development and production of these things even in peacetime and that's why international treaties are so important.

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