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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Agreed. Plus those are rookie numbers. Mao killed at least 40 million people on accident. Imagine what he could do if he put effort in.

[–] tocopherol -1 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Do you have a source for that number other than a CIA funded think-tank?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Please give me the real numbers, comrade.

[–] tocopherol 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most estimates range from 15-30 million. A smaller proportion of the population than the Irish potato famine which was caused by British mismanagement but I don't hear that talked about as a reason why capitalism is terrible much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

15-30 million

Hell yeah Mao stays winning.

I don't hear that talked about as a reason why capitalism is terrible much.

Probably because the overwhelming majority of people agree it was bad, especially here on lemmy. Find me 5 people that say the potato famine was good, actually, and I'll find you 3 entire instances that'll ban me for saying "maybe killing 15-30 million people for societal progress isn't the best strategy."

Tankies get more pushback here because nobody is singing the praises of capitalism.

[–] tocopherol -1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah people agree the famine in China was bad too. Even Mao and other officials in China agreed there were mistakes and made changes afterwards. Are you aware China experienced devastating famines on average of once a century for the previous 2000 years before that? There hasn't been a famine since then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah people agree the famine in China was bad too.

Say that on the triad I fucking dare you.

There hasn't been a famine since then.

Under a system with significant capitalist elements, you western dog. How many billionaires are there in China?

[–] tocopherol 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

You mean the 'tankie triad'? I'm pretty sure I learned that on hexbear. Why don't you try posting it?

They have "capitalist elements" because it's a long transition from a capitalist economic system to a communist classless society, the difference is who is directing the means of production and to what end the state is used for. And plenty of communists complain about China all the time. According to the Hurun Global Rich List China has 823 billionaires. I don't know what point you're trying to make.

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