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[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 days ago (107 children)

capitalism wouldn't be so bad without the corrupt bloated shitheel scumbag fucking christofascligarchs

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (23 children)

Capitalism is always bad, because capitalism is where an ownership class who does no work leeches from a working class who owns nothing.

Don’t confuse free markets with capitalism, they’re different.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (22 children)

Genuine question. How do you have free markets without the existence of capital and the pursuit of its accumulation?

The definition of capitalism per the dictionary is:

an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.

How do you have free trade without people who own things trading them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Free trade is "I possess a good or service, and we have agreed that I will exchange it with you for a price."

Capitalism is "I possess capital (money, value), and I have built a scheme where I exchange a tiny bit of that capital for other people's work, where that work generates large profits that go to me."

Free trade is between the seller and the buyer. Capitalism is the wealthy exploiting the non-wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can you provide a source for that definition of capitalism?

Genuinely asking, as it's not the definition I have historically heard, and while I can find things that argue that what you are saying is an inevitable byproduct of unregulated capitalism, I can't find anywhere that says those problems are a requirement for a system to be called capitalism.

As far as I can tell, if there is free trade and money/capital is owned and managed by private citizens, then that meets every formal definition of capitalism I have been able to find.

"Late stage capitalism" I think carries the connotations that you have outlined, but not capitalism in general.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago
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