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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago (14 children)

If they do this for a simple collision, can you imagine how ICE would react if, while they're off arresting people, a group tipped over their cars? I mean, such a disturbing event would only take about four or five people, which would be terrible. I hope it never happens, especially more than once.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (12 children)

ICE claimed that he rammed their vehicle, and that others threw stones and their car. So not a simple collision, from their official point of view. Though that does not justify what happened here.

I also wonder why this even is a case for ICE and not the police.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I also wonder why this even is a case for ICE and not the police.

Same reason the Mafia or the Cartels don't call the police when something goes down.

If you don't take care of it yourself how will people know not to fuck with you ?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't really put it into words but it feels like this should be the job of the police and that someone should be able to hold ICE accountable for this, AND hand the case over to the police. But the polices does not seem to be much better, so potato, potahto?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Indeed, in a working ideal model(see below for more on this*) of society the police exist to enforce the rule/spirit of law equally to all people.

ICE should ostensibly be a federal branch that is held to account by the government as a whole and deals specifically with customs and immigration related issues.

Citizens with no customs or immigration issues aren't really part of that mandate so it should be handed off to the relevant authorities that do in fact deal with that type of 'crime'.

Things are so far removed from that, that ICE is effectively running on gang/gestapo rules at this point and the government is actively encouraging it.

* So, by working ideal model i'm describing a point of view using traditional ideals of fairness and law, that assume the system is working towards that ideal.

The current system is not at all set up that way, so even if it seems batshit , this might actually be the system working as intended by the current sitting majority power (or if you're really cynical like me, capitalism as a whole).

So not only are you fighting to move the overton window in a direction that resembles the storybook ideals of fairness and equality, you are also fighting the existing imposed status quo.

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