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The problem I have with men, especially on Lemmy, is they have plenty of men's issues they could be calling attention to to try to actually change things, but instead of that they use them as weapons against women, and make no real attempt to fix their issues lest they lose their ammunition.
Yep! I've never seen a manosphere type raise the following:
They want to identify as victim and blame us. Without looking at men that genuinely are marginalised, like how disabled men are effected by ableism throughout the west.
Check the post about the rise of the manosphere. Shockingly the top and first comments were all blaming wimmenz for it
Speaking as somebody who pretransition started a free fall down that pipeline, I do wanna point something out about that.
TLDR: Men are taught to bottle things up, manosphere let's them address their bottled up problems by lying and telling them it's women's fault exclusively.
The general consensus is that the rise is caused by societal issues and conventions which expect men to stay silent about their feelings and issues, and resolve them on their own without help. The manosphere offers a space where they can be heard and gives them an actionable solution to the issue (as men are taught to seek.)
The problem is that "actionable solution" is to lie and say it's all women's fault, and that if they harrass and dominate women, then the problem will magically go away. It's a more tangible solution than "society has issues and you could play a small part in helping it, but you can't fix it on your own because you can't control other's actions."
Men assume whatever solution is more tangible must be the right one.
I say all this just because I feel it's important to understand what's going on in their heads if we're gonna combat it. I also want to point out that I know what I described here is the patriarchy, but I avoid using the word because even if it's the proper term, it's very easily misunderstood, and when something is misunderstood more often then not by those who need to hear it most, it ceases to be a good tool for communication.
Maybe I'm preaching to the choir, I dunno.
Check my comment history for my response on that thread :)
Ah, I missed that because I have lemmy.world blocked. You make good points.
Yep there was also a guy outright lying about why he got banned from here.