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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Don't really care about the competition. I care about having cheap access to [X]. If the competition can't compete, then fuck em. That's not my problem.

This comment is the American consumer for the last 50 years, next step is complaining about outsourcing jobs and lower quality products with no competition.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (8 children)

That only matters under an economic system that necessities competition.

Change the economic system to one that encourages cooperation instead, and that won't be an issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (7 children)

So your solution is change the whole system so you can buy a dumped Chinese car without any guilt?

Whilst I agree the system is broken, buying dumped goods only makes the situation worse as it means those players and playing on an uneven playing field

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

buying dumped goods only makes the situation worse as it means those players and playing on an uneven playing field

So let me get this straight, instead of buying a $20k Chinese EV to meet a necessity of modern life, you should pay $60k for a worse car where all the money goes to shareholders and dealership markups so you can be on an even playing field?

We're not talking about buying the cheap throw away Chinese product instead of the built for life one, we're not talking about consumerism at all. We're talking about taking a 5+ year loan for something society forces you to own in most cities around the world, and making Elon rich isn't a better alternative than having $40k in your savings account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Not sure what market your in but in Europe the price gap is not that huge, 30% max far as I can tell. Obviously that's still quite a bit when we are talking about car money but 20 vs 60 as you mention is not realistic as long as your not comparing the byd dolfin to a Mercedes.

I also never mentioned Chinese cars are poor quality. Actually they seem like quite good quality and as others have said their software seems good too though I've never driven one so I don't know. The current automakers, whilst they have the build quality sorted, the software and a few is lacking

One suggestion no one seems to suggest is to buy a second hand car. Imo, you get much more value for your money and since the car is already made you help the environment out too by not consuming something that needed to be made just for you

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