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Are there better people to tear down at the moment. I dunno, I don't agree with her politics and viscerally feel the innate violence of liberalism but also listen to her streams when I need to know I'm not alone in being trans, depressed and an addict.
There is also an ongoing trans genocide no one talks about enough, it's easier to ignore, and genocide of disabled people, both happening within our local communities.
Reading the hate towards her feels kind of gross, like a real easy scapegoat for anger n frustration at liberals
I imagine it's pretty easy to self harm on twitter in this way, familiar you know
As a disabled trans person I find this comparison rather disgusting:
The systemic oppression we face is real, horrible, and is an incalculable injustice that needs to be fought at all costs. But it is categorically not the same as the wholesale literal slaughter of tens of thousands of Palestinian children. Don't tell me you can look at the images coming out of Gaza of countless mangled bodies in the bombed-out rubble of their homes and hospitals and say "yeah, but I'm being genocided like that too." This is a category error and I find it more than "kind of gross."
What's more is that it doesn't matter which injustice is "worse." Giving one attention does not mean we should be silent on the other. That's not how the fight against injustice works. It's competition-brained bullshit at best. Everyone here agrees with the fact that transphobia is a deep social evil that we all have to struggle against, but using it as leverage to say we should talk less about the downplaying and denial of the genocide in Gaza, that is reprehensible. Both of these injustices can be (and often are) talked about and struggled against simultaneously without detracting from the other. By calling out Wynn's scummy liberal, bordering on genocide-denying rhetoric, and expressing our disgust with a person who would use their large platform to spew that rhetoric, we are not in any way detracting from the fight against transphobia or ableism. On the other hand, when someone comes along and says we shouldn't be loudly calling out that kind of behavior, that really is a kind of detraction from that struggle.
If you have a parasocial attachment to a problematic personality and find them somehow comforting, fine. I'm sure many here can relate simply because we live in a world dominated by liberalism. But don't tell others they shouldn't be vocally critical of those things you yourself say you recognize are bad. Personally, I wouldn't want to keep listening to someone who uses aspects I share (trans, depressed, addiction) as they're pushing a liberal agenda, what you yourself described as the innate violence of liberalism. It's not a crime to have low standards, but to defend the indefensible or tell others to be quiet about it, that's going beyond just having a problematic fav.
Don't do that. Don't do the "worse things exist so don't talk about this one bad thing that I say is lesser." Whether or not you realize you're doing it, that is an actual known tactic to throw a wrench in organizing efforts and derail leftist groups. It comes back to that same false binary I was talking about above. Yes there are and always will be "better people to tear down" that is, "worse people" like those in power who are the ones actively waging the genocide. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be rightly criticizing other ghouls and vultures engaging in genocide denialist rhetoric which is what Wynn is doing.
She is not a scapegoat. She is a millionaire with a substantial following and platform she is using to push fascist-adjacent talking points. This shit needs to be loudly criticized and called what it is. If she doesn't want that criticism, she can just not say that shit. She is not a leftist, she is a liberal Clintonesque centrist. She deserves every bit of ire she gets from the left, the same as any right wing pundit.
The genocide we face is silent, I'm not comparing it to kids being physically maimed by bombs and saying "but we have it bad too", I'm saying that it literally meets the criteria in many similar ways. I've watched the far left neglect caring for their own communities while LARPING at protests for almost two decades now. It's death by a thousand cuts and the worst are from people who are performative radicals.
Your comment is pretty shitty tbh, you remind me of myself when I existed in a bubble of radical leftism online around 2010.
"Are there better people to tear down at the moment."