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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago (55 children)

The idea of ownership is kinda silly.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (39 children)

I mean this in good faith, what's the alternative? That anyone could enter anyone's house freely? Or that everything is shared (owned by the state, which would give it too much power).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Joseph_Proudhon#Private_property_and_the_state

Some good reading to start with.

One of the main things to take away is that there's a difference between personal property and private property.

Personal property are things like your clothes, your home, the items you use regularly.

Private property are things you own but don't personally use, don't take real responsibility for.

For example, if you have the money, you can purchase a factory. But a factory is too large an item for one person to ever claim they personally run the whole thing and take full responsibility for. There's many people involved in running a factory, from cleaners to accountants, do they not also take responsibility for their part?

If the factory could never run without all of these workers, can the owner really claim that the factory is theirs? It is everyone who works there's. Why then does the owner get to keep all the money the factory produces? Because they stumped up some cash a few years ago?

The owners are smart enough to pay you for your labour. Maybe even a bonus for a successful year. Some benefits maybe when people start unionising and demanding more. But at the end of the day, the owner still gets the vast vast majority of the profits despite not putting in the vast majority of the work. How is this fair?

I've run out of steam now, it's been a long day, but if you genuinely meant your comment in good faith have a read of the links above.

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