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I'm a lot more anti-ethnic cleansing than I am pro-liberal democracy. If one side of a conflict is doing ethnic cleansing, and the other side's biggest failure (relative to the first side's) is not being a liberal democracy, I'm taking the side that's stopping ethnic cleansing 10 times out of 10.
Also, FWIW, Ukraine's political system is obviously is at least as corrupt and antidemocratic as Russia, and the other obvious example is Israel, which doesn't even give equal voting rights to all Palestinians. So even if you were a Fukuyamist who only cared about which side is a liberal democracy, you still can't make the argument to support the West in either conflict just based on that. All roads lead to
Really it’s more a question of how much red carpet they lay out for Western corporate interests. Saudi Arabia is a majority Muslim country led by a monarchy that offs journalists for being critical of them. But they get the pass from
because they play nice with the oil industry.