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This is a followup of my previous post where I struggled to use wayland on 22.04 with nvidia.

After a few more reading and tinkering, I found out that I needed to actively install the more recent nvidia-driver version 570 to have better wayland support, so that's what I did. It was kind of janky as my screen just went black as I apt installed the driver, I had to reset the computer. The next boot, I was running no nvidia driver at all, so I re-did the apt install and it actually completed this time. After a second reboot, I was now running nvidia driver version 570.153.02, yay!

With that out of the way, I proceeded to test those wayland sessions again, starting with KDE Plasma, but I found it is completely broken for me. Most mouse clicks don't even register, and there is a several seconds lag on everything, it's very weird and unusable.

Now for gnome wayland. Well, to my surprise, this works about OK. The desktop is relatively smooth at 144hz. I can't help but feel some extra latency on the mouse cursor but it's still usable. So much so that I actually have been trying it out for a few days now, with mixed results I'm afraid.

While it does work for the most part, it's still not as good an experience as X11 for me, for a few reasons that I found out with daily use :

  • I use mumble extensively, and keyboard shortcuts don't work on wayland (https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble/issues/5257). I had to set a global gnome shortcut that sends rcp commands to mumble to mute/unmute which was kind of a pain to figure out. I've also lost the "push-to-mute" feature in the process, which is my prefered way to operate the muting/unmuting.
  • I like RustDesk for remote desktop, but it doesn't work well on wayland yet either. (it says it has experimental support, but I just get no image at all so it's just broken for me)
  • The extra latency is not a lot but I do notice it. I've played some Rocket League, it's decent, but not as snappy as on x11.
  • I've had a complete freeze of the desktop yesterday out of the blue, I've had to ssh in to loginctl session-kill my gnome session. This kind of thing never happens on X11, and I can't have that happen too often during work.

For these reasons, I'm back on x11 for now, but it was fun experimenting. I'll give wayland another go later, with better application support I'm hoping.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s not surprising you ran into issues.

KDE’s Wayland session sucked 3 years ago, it only started becoming usable for me with 5.27. Before, Plasmashell would commonly crash.

Both have improved quite a bit since 2022. Though Gnome Wayland has always been pretty stable, just lacking some features.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Interesting. Thanks for the insight.