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[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (17 children)

Where did that 15 billion number come from?

Diocles' lifetime winnings, as recorded in Roman inscription CIL 6.10048, totalled 35,863,120 sesterces (HS) over a working life of 24 years. From this, he would have been paid an unknown sum by his management team, or his owners; his status as slave or free is not certain, nor is the likely amount of his total share.

Still a lot obviously, but where did that factor of 10-100 come from?

[–] ddash 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I'd also be interested how this salary compares to salaries of other jobs. It doesn't really matter if that number is correct if also a janitor earned close to that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

From the wiki link above:

... soldiers of the Rhine army who rose against Tiberius.... demanded to be paid a denarius a day, and they got it.[3]

One Sistertius is worth 1/4 of a Denarius, and 1/2 a Sisterius can buy a loaf of bread.

So 1 Denarius a day = 4 Sisterius = 8 loaves of bread a day

If we assume 3 USD is the price of a loaf of bread now, then these soldiers were being paid 24 dollars a day. Seems pretty low, but I guess bread was maybe more expensive back then?

Soldiers now make around 60 USD a day (random googling), so we're dealing with a factor of 3 error which doesn't seem so bad

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

AFAIK bread was quite a bit more expensive in the past, since baking involved getting up hours in advance to start a fire inside the massive earthen oven, not to mention that all the other parts of making flour were also way more difficult than they are now..

I think it might be comparable to meat these days? Something that everyone eats, but at the same time most people on some level realize that it's actually pretty fucking expensive and they should eat less of it, but it's just so normalized and tastes good so they just keep eating it every day.

(And for reference meat in the past would have been much more of a luxury, not in that people were vegetarians or anything but they'd just have less meat in every meal and they wouldn't turn their nose at organs and "low quality" stuff like we do.)

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