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[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

it's hard to imagine the united states not using ukraine in the future as a proxy war zone to further weaken russia, so this makes me wonder if this is a gambit to light a fire on the feet of the eu to get them to purchase more from the american military industrial complex over the eu's preference in waiting years for their own cottage military industrial complexes to catch up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's important to understand that the US is not omnipotent. Russia has defeated NATO in Ukraine, and the US can do nothing to change that. The US also sees China as their primary adversary, and they're not stuck supporting Israel against Iran. They simply do not have the resources to contest Russia now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but even if USA fucks off Ukraine right now, it will still remains a hot zone ready to be exploited by further US meddling, as one of many such zones in the world. And it will be a tool for internal US politics too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I think it's going to be a bit more complex than that because most people in Ukraine are tired of the war, and they're starting to realize they were used by the west. I don't expect there's going to be much appetite for some sort of an insurgency movement after the war is over. Meanwhile, the resentment towards the west will very probably result in blow back in Europe. The US will likely keep meddling, but I do think their influence will collapse in the whole region.

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