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Israel’s defense minister warned Saturday that “Tehran will burn” if Iran continues firing missiles, as the two countries traded blows a day after Israel launched a blistering surprise attack on Iranian nuclear and military sites, killing several top generals.

Israel’s military said the strikes also killed nine senior scientists and experts involved in Iran’s nuclear program. Iran’s U.N. ambassador said 78 people were killed and more than 320 wounded.

Iran retaliated by launching waves of drones and ballistic missiles at Israel, where explosions lit the night skies over Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and shook buildings. The Israeli military urged civilians, already rattled by 20 months of war in Gaza sparked by Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, to head to shelter for hours. Health officials said three people were killed and dozens wounded.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (8 children)

do you not realize there are people still alive today who were when the US nuked two cities?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (7 children)

No, what I don't understand is what relevance that has to this situation. The US using nukes on Japan 80 years ago doesn't make Iran making nukes justified. It doesn't validate Iran not having nukes. It neither strengthens nor weakens Israeli claims of an Iranian weapons program, and it doesn't make a preemptive strike to purportedly disable them just or unjust.

It seems like you're arguing that the US nuked Japan and therefore Iran, a signatory to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, is allowed to have nukes. Israel is falsely characterizing their civilian energy program, and we know this because of their backing by the US.
It's just a non-sequitor, particularly when there's relevant reasons why US involvement complicated matters. .

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It is not that it makes them justified, you seem to think I support what the US did. No. I say that the US has no right to pretend to worry about and therefore control other nations when the US has a documented history of using them.

If anything, the world could be “within its rights” to “preemptively strike” the US!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I say that the US has no right to pretend to worry about and therefore control other nations when the US has a documented history of using them.

“Look, I know I used meth and got thoroughly addicted and it completely ruined my life and it has taken years to get to a place where I’m able to have a semblance of a life, but I can’t tell anyone else not to use meth! That would be hypocritical of me, since I did! No, no one has any right to ever share what they’ve learned through experience.

This is the hypothetical situation you’re arguing for.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago

also if an adult wants to do meth no other adult has a “right” to stop them.

The US is NOT the world police. Sheesh. get uncle sam’s boot out of your mouth.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago

Yeah. because that’s how the world works. Let me sum up my point like this:

US, Israel, UK - all genocidal colonialist projects who have nothing good for the world and should not exist as nations. And in the current “geist”.

The rest of the world - also genocidal colonist projects who should not exist as nations.

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