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To be fair his support base specifically likes him because he doesn't speak like a typical politician. There are numerous accounts of trump supporters saying things like "he says it like it is" and "he's a guy you could have a conversation with." I think there is something to the way he speaks that resonates with people. I'm from Australia and it feels like all politicians speak in a specific way. They talk like they're walking on eggshells and it's not appealing to me. Trump's terrible, but his speech is iconic. And honestly, sometimes I'm not sure if he sounds dumb purely because I'm used to politicians speaking with a manufactured eloquence. Maybe if I heard a random person speaking with Trump's cadence I wouldn't give it a second thought.
No no, it’s dumb. It’s not the cadence that makes it dumb; it’s the substance, or sometimes utter lack of it in Trump’s case.
Actually trying to read a transcript of what he says is like pulling teeth. He's absolutely all over the place and takes half a dozen tangents to get to a one-sentence point
There was an article during his first term written by a French translator who was lamenting how her job was completely impossible - if she translates the general gist of his speech then it's like she's misrepresenting the nonsense, but if she translates it directly then a lot of people think that she's being either incompetent or malicious
Idk I read that passage and I can mostly understand what he's saying, I'd go as far as to say it's just as understandable as a lot of the word salad non answers from typical politicians. This sounds like how someone might present themselves in conversation, someone who isn't trained in how to give speeches or have a high level understanding of language construction. People vote on vibes and the vibes trump is giving up is some guy you might bump into in the pub. That is an exceedingly valuable thing to have as a politician in a society that largely doesn't trust its politicians. And in my opinion they have good reason not to trust them, it's unfortunate who was able to capitalise most on that distrust though.
Right, but there's basically nothing there. He took all that time to say "Iran outnegotiated us". Brevity alone isn't a mark of quality obviously, but the point the person above was making is that underneath the bluster there really is very little substance. You had said you don't know whether it's actually dumb or just not what you're used to hearing, and we're both saying that yes it really is dumb. It can be effective and popular while being dumb as well, unfortunately
Part of being a politician is being appealing. He's not just reciting information.