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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (25 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (21 children)

You want examples of systemic racism?

  • Poverty is inherited and it's impossible to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Black people in America are poor because they used to be slaves
  • White cultural traditions are legal in Australia. Many aboriginal cultural traditions have been made illegal in Australia due to land ownership changes
  • Black people are under-represented in universities, so the university scientists building facial recognition apps aren't building them to work on black people
  • Schools teach their lessons in english. Multilingual students who don't speak english at home often have a disadvantage in lessons that will be felt their whole lives
  • Children of illegal immigrants may have never received identification such as a birth certificate and it can be hard to get this as an adult
  • Whenever the police use robotic and computer systems to detect criminals the AI ends up racial profiling and harassing black people
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Poverty is inherited and it's impossible to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Black people in America are poor because they used to be slaves

That's capitalism's fault. Poor white kids would face the same issues.

Black people are under-represented in universities, so the university scientists building facial recognition apps aren't building them to work on black people

That's just a lack of data points and not a system constructed by anyone. The data points should be increasing naturally.

Schools teach their lessons in english. Multilingual students who don't speak english at home often have a disadvantage in lessons that will be felt their whole lives

It'd be awesome if we can just solve language barriers generally. Before we can do that having a single official language in working situations seems to be not avoidable for productivity.

Children of illegal immigrants may have never received identification such as a birth certificate and it can be hard to get this as an adult

Not related to racism.

Whenever the police use robotic and computer systems to detect criminals the AI ends up racial profiling and harassing black people

Is this happening? I think it's straight out wrong to predict criminals with AI trained on previous data.

All in all I agree that many of the existing systems sucks but I don't think it's helpful to link every problem to racism. Disclaimer: I'm not black or white

[–] uniqueid198x 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, cops are using ai facial recognition to identify suspects. As mentioned ai facial recognition is really bad at identifying black people particularly. This results in an increased incidence of wrongful arrest. In America, something like 2/3 of cases go to a plea deal because the people involved cannot afford to fight the charges, so this also results in increases in wrongful conviction.

Cops also use ai to tell where to focus patrols. This uses historical arrest data, often dating back to the 50s. The police tend to arrest more people in areas they patrol more heavily, so the ai ends up suggesting more patrols in areas which were previously sivject to discriminatory laws. They've automated away discrimanotory over-policing

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